Become a Critic or Submit a Song
Register Now
It only takes 60 seconds!

Already have an account?
Login Now
2/8/2015 CliveAnders 5813 CliveAnders
4 stars [3 Votes, 4.17 Stars]
Latest Chat2/16/2020 12:07:14 PM EST
DaveOD: The ghost ship still sails.
Chat Now!
Latest Comment 3/30/2020 7:27:51 AM EST
Choosey
IrREGULAR ELEPHAnT: Damn, this is some creative #@&%!. I'm sending my 12 year belated love.
Latest Backstage 2/2/2015 1:44:36 AM EST
Sold a Fool
ghengus23: great down dirty country rock feelin' from the start. Reminds me of social distortion. Not sure if...

8/22/2006

Nova Vox - SF based, second EP, hope you likey! 
Lost
By Nova Vox 
Average Rating: [7 Votes, 3.71 Stars]
Views: 1,637
[song removed by band]
 | 
Liner Notes
aaronlife [9/30/2006 10:54:31 AM EST]
Score: +0
this song popped into my head yesterday, nova deserves a feature, this is feature worthy for sure, put this baby up... i underrated by 1/2 star...
aaronlife [9/20/2006 11:22:25 AM EST]
Score: +0
if this isn't on the radio some day, it'll be like a diamond lying a playground that no one but some little kid sees, and he just tosses it back on the ground cause he's looking for his marbles.

yeah, this is a great song, the 'yeah' is actually my favorite part, almost... this is probably the best thing i've heard of yours, as is... i wait for the 'yeah's, they're so pleasing... other people will wait during the songs to hear the 'yeah's as well...

let it go just like this, it's near perfection.
dayer4b [9/18/2006 2:47:42 PM EST]
Score: +0
This reminds me of "High and Dry" by Radiohead. It's good and pretty.
Mr. Bratty [9/16/2006 9:23:44 PM EST]
Score: +0
hey, nova, i hope you don't mind but i've gone to bat for you.
melee beats [9/2/2006 4:30:04 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
sounds good, didn't know what to expect. personally, i prefer brighter drums but that's just me!
NovaVox [9/2/2006 4:28:12 PM EST]
Score: +0
No, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I'm glad you gave it.
unklesam [9/2/2006 4:25:39 PM EST]
Score: +0
I know you try hard here - ahh bad arguement
unklesam [9/2/2006 4:24:49 PM EST]
Score: +0
sorry, I wanted to fight there for a sec but I feel bad now, I'd remove those comments if I could maybe I'll stop for the day, get some sleep or something.. screw it man keep doing what you're doing..
NovaVox [9/2/2006 4:24:06 PM EST]
Score: +0
I won't be taking your criticism seriously anymore either, because it has become clear that you deal it out without really understanding what you are saying.
NovaVox [9/2/2006 4:21:23 PM EST]
Score: +0
Admittedly this song has some ear tags of Coldplay, I was actually a little leary of posting it for that very reason, and didn't release it as well.

However, I have to say, I think it's pretty petty of you to call me a charlatan, and imply that the music I create is going to kill off true art because I am blatantly immitating others.

Fundamentally, everything has elements of everything in it, and the fact that some portion of a song can be likened to one from another artist does not make it plagarism. Discerning what sets a song apart in a genre is what makes us good listeners, not trying to find reasons to discount it because it's the same.

If you can't see that, well then I feel sorry for you.
unklesam [9/2/2006 4:08:15 PM EST]
Score: +0
and shame is a ugh song too
unklesam [9/2/2006 4:07:51 PM EST]
Score: +0
Hi Nova! yes I read the comments, I thought I was driving the point in further. Actually I swear youd have to study these guys for a while to become such a charlatan. I think you should rate other peoples songs ultimately it will make you better.

This reminds me of when everybody wanted to sing like Alanis Morrisette or the Cranberries or whatever, my point is that blatantly immitating other artists is a tried and true way to kill off artists and styles and make everyone programmed and naucious.

Maybe my stuff belongs in a litterbox but I hold plagarism as a far greater offense
NovaVox [9/2/2006 4:01:26 PM EST]
Score: +0
unklesam, if you think I don't deserve to rate cause I'm a ditto, go take a listen to Shame.
NovaVox [9/2/2006 3:55:01 PM EST]
Score: +0
You are entitled to your opinion...

Note...I already mentioned that I changed the "YEAH" to "Lost" in later versions (you should read the comments on the song before restating the obvious)...also I don't think this is one of our best either...If you read the notes you'd see we didn't release it for all the reasons you are brining up....

Funny thing (which kind of bothers me) is that everyone liked this one more than the stuff that I think is better....?
unklesam [9/2/2006 3:52:01 PM EST]
Score: +0
I should admit that I was kiddin ... mostly
unklesam [9/2/2006 3:41:41 PM EST]
Score: +0
oh my! this is you, this is way gay man, what sell out immitators! how can you go around rating people for originality with this, hosestly? crap, I have to rethink all the stuff youve evaluated. Pretending like your a band thats "so yesterday" is the lamest. Its like pretending you are the beatles when you are the monkeys but on a amateur level. Horrible
bluedoovoodoo [8/24/2006 5:40:33 AM EST]
Score: +0
This is alright. A little bland on the melody and the progression. Nothing particularly special or catchy in the song. It sounds like it could be filler material for an album of similar but catchier songs.
katia77 [8/24/2006 3:57:06 AM EST]
Score: +0
Lyrics are good but the YEAH back up vocal a bit Coldplay dont you think?
NovaVox [8/23/2006 7:29:34 PM EST]
Score: +0
Man, you guys are hitting them all today...here comes name drop number two...

Last year we had a production deal that fell through with Mike Plotnikoff. He is an engineer who really liked our stuff, but had to put us off to do the last All American Rejects record. We ended up kicking our lead guitarist out and the deal fell through...funny you would mention them. He is a hell of an engineer.
jamsmith [8/23/2006 7:20:12 PM EST]
Score: +0
youaresoverywelcome
Melochromatic [8/23/2006 7:15:22 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
Melochromatic [8/23/2006 7:14:50 PM EST]
Score: +0
I really like this song. Great vibe, not trying too hard. That yeah is done just right, I could imagine it going terrible wrong if either voice went just a little off key but thankfully it didnt. We should play a show together.

On the side note: Nickleback has horrible lyrics and their singer's voice is annoyingly fake intense sounding. I hear what you are saying about the production though, I thought the same thing when I heard the new All American Rejects album.
NovaVox [8/23/2006 7:07:42 PM EST]
Score: +0
You troll.
singmetofire [8/23/2006 7:05:36 PM EST]
Score: +0
i have NEVER met anyone on an Xbox.


i use a PS2 thankyouverymuch.
jamsmith [8/23/2006 7:03:41 PM EST]
Score: +0
I ain't trying to defend them cause I ain't a fan. If they were Golden Globe nominees I might not pay attention, but Grammy nominations come from professionals. (Oh, here come the conspiracy theories over the ridge now!)
jamsmith [8/23/2006 7:01:25 PM EST]
Score: +0
Drop all you want as long as you ain't just bull#@&%!ting. If someone can't dig the trip you are on, #@&%! their jealous #@&%! asses. Its pretty obvious I don't give a #@&%! about a bunch of garage & basement trolls. The only people they meet are on their X-Box!
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:56:29 PM EST]
Score: +0
Tight.
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:47:59 PM EST]
Score: +0
No. The suck makes the drop null and void.
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:46:02 PM EST]
Score: +0
Does it still count as name dropping if the person who's name you drop you previously said sucks?
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:43:23 PM EST]
Score: +0
Nickelback suck because the "fake gruff" voice is so out and the lyrics are always about being a #@&%! up but that the girl will see someday that he will turn it all around...

On the note of the studio, our bass player works with another band too. He was at Chad Kroeger's home studio and recorded with some of the engineers that do their albums...it was pretty intense. He came back with some really neat stories...
jamsmith [8/23/2006 6:40:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
Branding. Believe me, I don't buy a whole lot of commericial music. I but I can respect that some people want to do that and are good at it. He wrote one for a Santana Album. Clive Davis is no fool
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:35:29 PM EST]
Score: +0
Indeed we can. Your totally right Jams.
The song im so scared of everyone to hear, was done in a top notch studio, on a #@&%!ing huge SSL board, with only the best mic's and preamps. Unmastered
The garage recordings sound much better. They were mastered.

Nickelback sucks becuase you can play two of their songs at the exact same time, and the only thing that doesnt go together is the vocals.
jamsmith [8/23/2006 6:34:30 PM EST]
Score: +0
Nickelback? Chad is a good songwriter with strong vocals. Why does he get so much grief?
jamsmith [8/23/2006 6:32:43 PM EST]
Score: +0
You just aren't going to get major label production out of your project studio. They have U87s and 414s out the yingang. SSL and NEVE boards. Million dollar acoustic designs. Days and hours of mic placement. The best tracking engineers and the best mixing engineers with the best control room design and critical monitoring. But the real secret is the dark art of Mastering. If you could Bob Ludwig to master your recordings...

we can all dream, can't we?
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:31:49 PM EST]
Score: +0
All i can tell you is the color is manilla.

Do me a favor, when the Alexic song makes its way through the RF septic pipes.
Read the lyrics and info before you listen.
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:29:23 PM EST]
Score: +0
I was wondering what a folder can was
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:28:40 PM EST]
Score: +0
Buyer! There you are, I believe there is the little matter of red penning jam to be handled, you up to it?
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:28:22 PM EST]
Score: +0
wtf kind of retard puts a d there instead?
TheBuyer [8/23/2006 6:28:06 PM EST]
Score: +0
I post nothing all day and that's the best I can do.
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:27:57 PM EST]
Score: +0
We usually get our mixing done at 510 Studios in Fremont.

The fellow there Aaron Tressel is like the master of outboard gear. If you have it, have heard of it or want it, he knows about it.

He does a great job of widening and really adding feel to our records. I highly recommend him. We just finished 2 singles with him actually. We recorded them at the studio this time. They came out great and I may post one here soon.
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:27:54 PM EST]
Score: +0
thanks kindley.
TheBuyer [8/23/2006 6:27:51 PM EST]
Score: +0
TheBuyer [8/23/2006 6:27:24 PM EST]
Score: +0
Folger's.
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:25:13 PM EST]
Score: +0
i never knew i couldn't spell that word until just now...

Folders can....noo

(FOLJERS)

sound it out bitches.
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:23:55 PM EST]
Score: +0
nooo we do not.
We go through a kid named nick, lives in El bay Areano...
He's got some pretty beefy preamps, and rack mount filter BS, that he runs all the tracks through.
Then he puts it all together with Pro Tools, using EQ and effect plugins.
We do instrument tracking in a booth he made in his garage (pretty big actually...he did a good job making it)
And vocals in his bedroom.
It helps he went to one of the most expensive sound recording colleges in the united states for 4 years and got a degree in it.

Altho, the song you are ABOUT to hear from Alexic, was not done with nick.
So it sounds like it was recorded in a folder can with a coat hanger.
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:21:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
You guys usually have pretty good production too singme...do you guys do your own recording?
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:19:21 PM EST]
Score: +0
BARELY
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:16:21 PM EST]
Score: +0
I get you...that's kinda what I meant to get across and singmetofire red penned my ass ;)

The point is, everyone seems to like the production and I actually have moved into a realm where I have felt like I can't record a damn thing right. I listen to a Nickelback record for instance...I #@&%!ing hate that band, but their records are UNBELIEVABLE. The production is so good that when I get stuff mastered and they A/B it I feel ashamed...

Shamed by Nickelback...am I still a man?
jamsmith [8/23/2006 6:12:20 PM EST]
Score: +0
Ok, that was horrible but please say you know EXACTLY what I meant before TheBuyer shows up with his red pen.
jamsmith [8/23/2006 6:11:18 PM EST]
Score: +0
The key to great production has never been eq or effect. Not even great mics. Those are tools a good producer can use to fix crap. Great production begins with having your good sources, decent microphone and mic placement. One of the best engineers out there for years only recorded with 2 mics directly into a DAT. No, EQ, no mixing.
singmetofire [8/23/2006 6:03:19 PM EST]
Score: +0
the lengths we go on this page to prove a point....
NovaVox [8/23/2006 6:02:14 PM EST]
Score: +0
Funny, I engineered this entirely myself on the digi002 and the organs and keys are all soft synths through Reason or the B4 by Native Instruments. Bass and guitar were recorded live to the sequenced drums. This was recorded in a glorified bedroom with only a digi002 rack, no pre's and a KSM27 for vocals.

As said, no mixing (faders are sitting on bounce down) and no master...heh

Funny how digital recording has come so far...

*Now* do you believe what I was saying about just getting the above equipment and you're STELLAR? Heh? Heh?
jamsmith [8/23/2006 5:48:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3.5 stars
On a personal note, this isn't really the kind of song that appeals to me personally and I don't usually comment on those. But the production is so appealing. You do a real good job with the clean guitars, so often clean and acoustic guitar tracks sound plastic or jangly. The vocals delivery is real good, though I think they could be up in the mix a little more along with a little more kick and snare. Still, this is some of the more pro-sounding production here.
Mr. Bratty [8/22/2006 8:55:37 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
okay, now it's working again... now this is a perfect example of what i meant earlier about staying on target. this song never tries to overreach it's own scope. even the middle eight was complimentary, as middle eights are supposed to be. it establishes itself firmly and commits. well done. the last one was better than the first (to me) but this one is my fave, so far. i expect to be completely astonished by the next one.
Mr. Bratty [8/22/2006 8:00:01 PM EST]
Score: +0
i wish i could hear it. for some reason it's not loading up or allowing downloads.
aaronlife [8/22/2006 5:26:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
nova, i think the song could stand on it's own, released as a single, and it's funny, i found it 'believable' or 'genuine', i love the 'yeah', i wouldn't change it to 'lost', one of my favorite parts... lyrics are nice. it's just that i would loosen it up and have more fun with it after the first verse, more comfortable in your skin with it, like it's already been your big hit, and now you're just groovin it on MTV unplugged... (remember, like Guns n Roses doin Patience or something unplugged back in the day?) this is layed back, which works, but isn't loose enough for me, so it doesn't quite hook into as much as it could... you know how mick jagger really loosens up his spine and moves around, like he's channeling a serpent, that's the kind of looseness i mean in the vocals, and the playing... the bridge is a little weaker than the rest of the song, i wouldn't necessarily change it, just give it your attention, maybe roughen the vocals there, then go back to the smooth yeahs, which i love.... please don't change those to 'lost', then there isn't the contrast with the lead vocal. i think this a great current-era song, produce it right, i think it'd be a hit. i'm serious, i don't #@&%! around when i'm serious. it gets better with each listen.
acdlaw [8/22/2006 4:40:43 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3 stars
Really strong vocals...I like your tone and quiet emotion...It makes me want to listen to more of your tracks. The song would not stand on its own but would be great as part of an EP or an LP.
singmetofire [8/22/2006 2:11:35 PM EST]
Score: +0
singmetofire@gmail.com
singmetofire [8/22/2006 2:11:20 PM EST]
Score: +0
HA, you can always email me.
NovaVox [8/22/2006 2:05:18 PM EST]
Score: +0
How do people usually swap info fo' contact fool...I don't know how to give it to you and not the entire world and the data miners at RedFizz all at once...
singmetofire [8/22/2006 1:57:28 PM EST]
Score: +0
See: Dane Cook "lets do this, im a cashew" you will understand.

Where exactly in the area is you at? Can a nukka get a county?
NovaVox [8/22/2006 1:53:36 PM EST]
Score: +0
This is weird...this song is basically one of *my* rejects...there are some good parts, but I feel like the overall feel comes across too ingenuine...

I was really into this at one time and then I wrote some more potent things and moved on....

I have since changed the "yeahs" to "lost" so it doesn't sound as much like "In my place" ;)

singmetofire - I'm down if you are. The drums are just me via midi and BFD...they did come out believable though...heh

What in the crispy jesus (Bratty I believe) is a cashew?
singmetofire [8/22/2006 11:49:19 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3.5 stars
Ok nova, i could definatly play drums for your band, i have a kit, where do you practice.
Let do this, im a cashew.

This is good, i was drivin away from the reject pile today becuase of that damn jacobz ladder poo-fest. This was a nice change for the first thing i listened to after that. Really reminiscant of some soft rock stuff like, old oasis meets john mayer and coldplay? i don't know, and if thats an insult, it's not meant to be, it sounds like the most tolerable parts of all of those acts. But it's still pretty origonal.
The "yeah's" really sounds like coldplay tho.

Good stuff, awesome recording too btw.
aaronlife [8/22/2006 11:33:27 AM EST]
Score: +0
I think it's really nice, I'd have to go back and listen to your other stuff, but it's smooth, might be my favorite of yours. Better than all those John Mayer rehashed John Mayer songs I keep hearing while I shop at Wild Oats... If I heard this on XM radio I wouldn't question it for a second... Drums sound nice actually... I'm torn between 3.5 and 4, I think it's great, but I think for this genre it doesn't move me enough to hit 4, maybe it's my mood, or maybe this needs a fresh take, the chorus/yeah harmony is great, almost think it could swing more during the chorus if that makes sense, really nice ending... i'm gonna come back, nicely done.
Non-mixed, non-mastered, drums are done with BFD, bass and keys are real. This is something we didn't release. Just a song we thought was good for a time and then thought...well we have better stuff...

Just thought it might be nice to see what happened with it. ;)
Booed Offstage (2)
Shiithead [9/19/2006 10:54:54 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 0.5 stars
this SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BassistMan [9/17/2006 12:42:15 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 0.5 stars

Critics who liked this also liked: 
1. FREEKY DEEK (78 points)
2. Thug Passion (62.3 points)
3. SUCH A FAN - DEMO (58.3 points)