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2/8/2015 CliveAnders 5813 CliveAnders
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8/28/2006

James Bishop Brown - Hell Froze Over: James B. Brown
Forgotten Sister: Denis Regan, Lennard Thompson, James B. Brown 
If the Moon
Average Rating: [6 Votes, 3.17 Stars]
Views: 1,383
[song removed by band]
NovaVox [8/30/2006 12:18:39 PM EST]
Score: +0
Yeah, well...either way if his next song is good he'll get a good rating from me.
TheBuyer [8/30/2006 12:14:26 PM EST]
Score: +0
I dunno, I think you guys just misread each other a couple of times, that's all. It's probably not important any more.
NovaVox [8/30/2006 12:11:39 PM EST]
Score: +0
Buyer - frankly, I just made a passing comment about my first impression of the song, and didn't rate because I knew I wouldn't say anything good...it was the snippy attitude that made me go farther.
kashworth [8/30/2006 1:08:56 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
I digg this random mess of a song!!!!

Its got soul and heart!!!!
TheBuyer [8/29/2006 10:57:26 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3.5 stars
Also Nova, far be it from me to accuse anyone of being to harsh on a person but I don't know if this is hacky Delta Blues so much a nod to Delta Blues. It doesn't strike me as a guy trying to commandeer a sonic vehicle so much as a guy who wrote kind of a blues feel song and plays it with a slide. If he faked an accent or did something else ...uh...black?... I'd say different. Then again being about as far you can get from the place (we pronounce every letter of New Orleans) I could be talking about things I don't know about. Until he was accused of trying to sound like a blues guy I didn't even notice this was a blues song. What I think I'm trying to say here is lay off my schtick, buddy, you're supposed to be the rational one.
TheBuyer [8/29/2006 10:47:32 PM EST]
Score: +0
Never heard of him. Wait, you mean the guy from Gilded Age?
iconoclasticatachism [8/29/2006 10:42:49 PM EST]
Score: +0
Not that this sounds anything like The King, but Elvis succesfully blended those two genres right there. So i dunno. i think it depends on how well you do it.
This is good for what it is, heartfelt.
NovaVox [8/29/2006 9:28:58 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 1.5 stars
Delta blues rhythm and slide, musical form is blues...vocal and lyrics are Country. Country is a white music form, blues started as a black music form.

Talent is evident, singing is on key and has some feeling, playing sounds like a very good comp of several blues songs we can all mention...overall feel is poor. Because it sounds like a white country singer trying to set the stage for a real blues song, and then jerking it away with a country "I lost my dog, woman and truck" lyric and melody.

1. Technical ability
2. Good tone choice
3. Playing the right part for the song
4. Feeling
5. Originality

This gets:

1) 3 (Average singing and guitar playing, shows knowledge but uninspired)
2) 2 (Recorded poorly which contributes to rip off, the tone is reminiscent)
3) 2 (The song doesn't really grab you and lacks milking of the changes)
4) 1 (Feels like a white guy playing blues badly...nuff said)
5) 0 (Bad delta blues ripoff...whoo hooo....haven't seen that before)

Overall: 1.6 (this review won't really help you, 'cause you can't see what is wrong...you also have an extremely poor ability to take criticism. With that attitude, you won't go far in this biz)
aaronlife [8/29/2006 9:20:10 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
i don't think music belongs to anyone, if a black artist can play like this, so can a white artist, i'm happy to hear his true voice, it sound genuine to me, it's great, and his playing style, drawn from the blues, is highly effective/enjoyable... happy dinner!
jbrown (song submitter) [8/29/2006 9:15:55 PM EST]
Score: +0
I'm moving on. I've posted another song. It's a rock and roll, and therefore blues ripoff too. Time for dinner.
D-Dog! [8/29/2006 9:14:31 PM EST]
Score: +0
I'm sorry about the way this is turning but, as far as your expression...I think it's pretty good. I'm color blind but, some others feel the same because, Stevie Ray Vaughan won the black achievement award.
jbrown (song submitter) [8/29/2006 9:14:26 PM EST]
Score: +0
No. I objected to your assumption of what I was feeling or what my intentions were instead of just sticking to your own, that, and "whitey".
NovaVox [8/29/2006 9:08:13 PM EST]
Score: +0
Ah. Can think of any huh?

Fundamentally...you weren't happy I said you were copping the style poorly, then you decided it was a "whites only" argument and now you think I should give you a reason why I don't like your watered down version of an American art form.

I really thought I made it clear before...
jbrown (song submitter) [8/29/2006 9:02:03 PM EST]
Score: +0
Are you the love child of one of these men? Do I owe restitution?
NovaVox [8/29/2006 8:54:15 PM EST]
Score: +0
You're right, maybe that's unfair.

If you can post 5 white guys that influenced original delta blues as much as these 5 black guys, I'll back off...

1) Robert Johnson
2) Elmore James
3) Muddy Waters
4) Lightnin' Hopkins
5) Sonny Boy Williamson

And I chose delta blues, cause in case you aren't aware...that is pretty much what you were ripping off.
TheBuyer [8/29/2006 8:45:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
We co-opt everything, we may as well get it right.
jbrown (song submitter) [8/29/2006 8:42:26 PM EST]
Score: +0
This is always a "Whites Only" argument.
NovaVox [8/29/2006 7:44:18 PM EST]
Score: +0
Oh, you *are* quite clever...

The very thing that makes it "robbing" is doing a derivative version of it and losing the main point and feel, but trying to pass it off under the same name.

So to say you are "robbing" it *is* to say you aren't singing it black enough, and yet copping the slide guitar and the style...but doing a ham fisted job of it. The sentiment IS the soul, perhaps that's why it isn't working...
jbrown (song submitter) [8/29/2006 7:36:21 PM EST]
Score: +0
Soulful is not what I was after here. The sentiment is genuine. Thats all that matters. This is not a blues song per se. Telling me I'm robbing the blues but saying I should sing it more black is whack. Whitey robs rap...
NovaVox [8/29/2006 7:31:54 PM EST]
Score: +0
Actually that is quite adept.

You *in fact* are a whitey who is *in fact* robbing the blues...

Look, I'm sure you find this very soulful, but it just sounds like, well...a white guy doing a blues song...And not the Allman Brothers or something, more like Rod Stuart.
jbrown (song submitter) [8/29/2006 7:10:46 PM EST]
Score: +0
whitey robs blues... WTF?
NovaVox [8/29/2006 5:52:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
I just can't decide, this reminds me of some of the stuff Zepp did on Coda, but not quite as cool of course ;)

This shows some depth, but is a little white americana for me, and robs some ideas from blues...

No review but you could rough it up on the singing a bit so it isn't so whitey.
jbrown (song submitter) [8/28/2006 5:48:50 PM EST]
Score: +0
I think the end got clipped.
jbrown (song submitter) [8/28/2006 5:43:13 PM EST]
Score: +0
The recording is just a 57 in front of one PA speaker whick I'm running a mic thru while sitting next to the amp so there is a lot of bleeding, way reverb, etc. I just wanted to capture the essence of the song while it was fresh. I was thinking of adding the full band treatment / crescendo about half way in.
leathermouse [8/28/2006 1:22:13 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2.5 stars
This song is pretty good. Just needs a better recording.
singmetofire [8/28/2006 12:20:56 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3.5 stars
Ok. This is really good.
If you would change anything, id say mabye make an actual "ending" for it.
This song is very powerful, there is a lot of passion in your voice, that makes this very genuine. I would mabye change up the strumming pattern at certian points, to add the illusion of a "bridge" or "breakdown" but this is a very strong track. I'd like to hear this recorded a little bit better, and to have some sort of epic ending, i really think this can be a definate stand out track.
Great lyrics btw, this is really nice.
aaronlife [8/28/2006 8:00:07 AM EST]
Score: +0
i wouldn't change it, it's nice...
TheBuyer [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
clearly recorded from the bottom of a canyon or in the trunk of a car or something but I really like the John Cale melody and straighforward sentiment. Also some pretty cool bends n slides.

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