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10/20/2006

ALPINE TANKER 11 - see it to believe it 
ALL POSITION CAREER OPPORTUNITIES
Average Rating: [13 Votes, 2.58 Stars]
Views: 3,380
itchybrother [2/12/2007 5:47:57 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3 stars
I like the drums
DonnieDarko [11/21/2006 3:11:08 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2.5 stars
Cool vocal distance at the beginning... but than i want a warm, close, personal voca tonel at some point... chorus is cool... i like the guitar...interlude is really cool
jordanschug [10/26/2006 2:16:47 PM EST]
Score: +0
This song fails the ten second rule big time.

I did like the comment you made novafox in the beginning. It was constructive. I just hate the concept of the 10 second rule. The reason this song was featured was not because of our awesome studio sound, it's probably because of the song writing. We're just four guys trying to have a good time. We've never been too concerned with mistakes or speeding up.

I'm not making any excuses about the wrong song being posted. I am honored that this was featured. And I do like this song, even when it gets negative feedback. I'm glad it's up here.
O-U-8-1-2 [10/26/2006 8:49:10 AM EST]
Score: +0
Will someone back me up and get this Even Seleven kid to post some more songs? In the last two hours I think I've heard "Love Takeoff" about ten times. I'm gonna wear it out soon. Actually I probably won't, but still-come on buddy, let's hear some new songs.
O-U-8-1-2 [10/26/2006 8:10:02 AM EST]
Score: +0
Actually singmetofire is right. Do you know how tough it is to record when you have a head between you and the guitar. That's why I always #@&%! up during solos, and if you turn your speakers way up sometimes you here gagging.
singmetofire [10/25/2006 5:43:16 PM EST]
Score: +0
hey i never said i understood it. I just call em' as i see em.

This is kinda like what Big Country did for his song where they had Chuck Norris on bass.

I could be right, could be wrong, Who knows. This is more your cup o tea than mine, and your right. It makes absolutley no sense.
But it does seem to be some sort of popular copout round these parts.
qualcomm [10/25/2006 5:36:33 PM EST]
Score: +0
i don't see how uploading the wrong song gets them off the hook, sing. it's still their song, as i'm sure they realize.
singmetofire [10/25/2006 5:25:32 PM EST]
Score: +0
They were too busy having sex with eachother. What a bag of excuses.

"this song sucks"
"oh, i uploaded the wrong one"

Yet, im sure if the song received the praise of angels it would be a different story.

I hear lindsey Coleman is looking for hangout buds.
qualcomm [10/25/2006 5:20:22 PM EST]
Score: +0
why'nt you guys upload the song you meant to upload? eh?
Dead_Leaves [10/25/2006 5:12:03 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2 stars
must....get....metronome.......
Mr. Bratty [10/24/2006 8:15:41 PM EST]
Score: +0
it's too bad about the hubbub, but i still dig this song.
O-U-8-1-2 [10/24/2006 8:06:35 PM EST]
Score: +0
Yeah Jordan, you forgot all about the industry. You're pissing off Clive Davis. He's been sending me hatemail ever since you shat on the 10 second rule.
singmetofire [10/24/2006 7:04:36 PM EST]
Score: +0
you know jordan. He's right.
NovaVox [10/24/2006 6:58:30 PM EST]
Score: +0
You are uh, an idiot.

The 10 second rule is an industry standard measure of if I turn your song off cause it doesn't catch me positively in the first 10 seconds.

If you ever meet an A&R person, it will behoove you to know this, or, uh...you can be dumb. Up to you.
jordanschug [10/24/2006 6:52:29 PM EST]
Score: +0
I'm in alpine tanker 11 and I wrote this song. It was a mistaken post, we meant to post a different song. this song is called THROUGH SYLVANIA. I know it was said earlier but I just wanted to say it again.

1)Yeah it's poorly recorded.
2)The song is a blast to play live.
3)it is my humble opinion that this so called 10 second rule is just, uhh, dumb. We're not making jingles for TV.

p.s. Monkman, it's empirical eyes, not empirical lies.
sedrite [10/24/2006 3:43:33 PM EST]
Score: +0
I think people should write whatever they want. That's what I do!!!
Greyfield [10/24/2006 3:41:11 PM EST]
Score: +0
Jeezy Squeezy...I think I walked in just as people were mopping up the blood! This song sounds fine to me, although at the time it became featured I was in battle with it and too paralyzed with benign rage to speak. :^)

I do have to say: there's no reason for people who are smart, passionate and sensitive enough to write music to resort to name calling and taking the low road. Rise above it and show some general respect for people who are (style-clashes not withstanding) very similar to you.
singmetofire [10/24/2006 3:07:01 PM EST]
Score: +0
QC, i totally agree with you. And O-U, thanks for being normal.
It was after my songs got trashed, twice. That i decided to take a negative stance. You can always find 20949028340923 reasons a song isn't perfect.

And if i get provoked, as a musician, i can really do my best to point out each one like it was a huge, discusting blemish, every imperfection.

mabye my first comment wasn't the nicest, but there is helpful feedback in there behind the "text"
I agree, it's all fun and games, and that's what my posts are in the first place, if they come off nasty. Sometimes it's fun to be nasty.

Anyhow, i agree, recording quality isn't always everything, but it does make some stuff a little easier to listen to.

It's when the trolling happens, that i decide to take an offensive.

Anyhow, thanks for being mature. That's pretty righteous of you.
qualcomm [10/24/2006 2:56:51 PM EST]
Score: +0
some of you fellas are too stuck on recording and even, i daresay, technique. not that i prefer when a band can't play well--i usually reject posthumous music because while i like the songs, their playing is distracting. but unless a band is playing a style of music where production is absolutely key, like dance, these things are ultimately secondary. singme, i hear what you're saying about "actual emotions" but i think you have it kinda backwards; it's the emotions aroused in the listener that matter, not what the band is feeling. for all i care, the rolling stones are comprised of sociopaths; the fact is, their songs still make ME feel something, as does this one.
NovaVox [10/24/2006 2:52:40 PM EST]
Score: +0
Well now, that's a downright grown up response.

I'm not sure we know how to handle one of those here.
O-U-8-1-2 [10/24/2006 2:50:24 PM EST]
Score: +0
Ok, this is directed to singmetofire. Man, the only reason we screw with you so much is because you make it so damn fun. It's what makes this website so fun. This is a forum, aren't forums set up just for that reason, bashing other people without having to see them face to face. We're all hard asses with our tough typing fingers. I can tell you to F@ck off and go right back to being just as passive as I ever was before I told you to do so. It's just text man.

On that note, I know this song sounds like #@&%! I was there when we recorded it. I know it's too long, it wasn't supposed to be posted, it's the wrong song. I honestly can't believe it was featured. And yes, the mics we used to record probably did come from the bottom of someone's closet, or worse the front of my boombox. But if people are going to be that hung up on production quality reject the damn songs.

And that brings me to this, your songs. I listened to them all, yes it's not my thing, but that just means I probably won't buy a CD. Doesn't mean I wouldn't go to a show. I'd pay the cover to help you guys get to the next town. We know what it's like to spend 80 bucks in gas another 50 on beer to make 30 bucks to get home. By the way, not that you care, and you shouldn't I'm not your target audience, but I feel that House Of Cards is your best song, and if you care to look I will leave an appropriate comment and rating on the page.
NovaVox [10/24/2006 2:43:40 PM EST]
Score: +0
Point....and match.
Throgmorton [10/24/2006 1:31:34 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 1 star
What is going on technically here--there's some f'd up soundwave or feedback that makes this unlistenable like when you crack only your your rear window on the highway. Frankly, even at low decibles and listening through the poor recording the playing is boring, song structure is boring, singing is mediocre, song is too long. Sounds like some drunk art students jamming in the basement with some random lyrics thrown in.

Mr. Pony [10/24/2006 10:37:04 AM EST]
Score: +0
These are all very interesting theories.
mechanical_bull [10/23/2006 7:50:45 PM EST]
Score: +0
I have such a huge #@&%!ing smile on my face right now! I come to this sight everyday and listen to the feature, but then a day comes when I can read an exchange like this. I find it interesting what songs cause such a ruckas, indie cred versus angry at dad. This song was fine and I give it three stars, but the band should be really proud of the fight it caused with the local tuff's. I don't know singmetofire from Adam, but I can't argue with him.
P.S. css is limp
sedrite [10/23/2006 7:09:20 PM EST]
Score: +0
Why the world doesn't need The Buyer By Lois Lane
NovaVox [10/23/2006 7:07:56 PM EST]
Score: +0
(Perfect moment for the Buyer to resurface)
sedrite [10/23/2006 6:56:55 PM EST]
Score: +0
yeah Pony Nova never thought you were cool.
NovaVox [10/23/2006 6:50:23 PM EST]
Score: +0
You know why we are having this conversation?

Because Buyer isn't here to call us Douche bags and tell us to stop whining.

It's like when you remove the main predator from an eco-system, everything goes out of whack, thoughts are expressed in an open forum and people start to think they can make a difference...the exact analog of an unchecked growth in the frog population once you remove the rednecks from a particular swamp.
singmetofire [10/23/2006 6:49:01 PM EST]
Score: +0
hell i could even be wrong.
I don't know. This is ridiculous though, that's for sure.
Anyhow, im very happy with my vag-core band.

Although my statements about this song still hold true.

At the end of the day, Alpine, know this.

While you did bag on other peopels songs, for not loving yours. What you did was out of spite, and the comments you left are reflections of that.

Where, your song, is still an underproduced pile of generic garbage.
When you think about it, for you to do, what i do, would probably be pretty tough. The guitar parts aren't streamline "Generic" music rythems, the double bass blasts, or the screaming / singing, So while it may not be your cup of tea, my money says if you tried to pull it off you'd fall on your face.
Whereas if i were to take an oxycotton, and dig up all the #@&%!ty mic's / eq. i have hidden away in my closet, i may be able to pull this off.

Does it hurt, sucking at life, that bad?
singmetofire [10/23/2006 6:40:45 PM EST]
Score: +0
I don't think it's as much "unless it has to do with this keep it out"

but, moreso, a personal attack on someone just becuase of their taste in music.

More directly, how CSS likes to come on at 3am when no one can say anything back, and leave snide comments about me, as a person, just beccuase i don't buy into this whole "#@&%!ty rock" revolution.
NovaVox [10/23/2006 6:36:11 PM EST]
Score: +0
Also, I was kidding regarding the "cool" comment.

I really do think we have beat this to death. It seems I just want something that is never going to happen, and sometimes in life that's just a reality and we are better for it.
NovaVox [10/23/2006 6:32:52 PM EST]
Score: +0
When the majority of the content in the rating comment is about something not related to the song (or in the example below related to some inside politicing the submitter won't understand) I think it makes you look like a dolt.

You do what you want. You know how I feel.
Mr. Pony [10/23/2006 6:16:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
Now, come on, Nova; even you have to admit that half of understanding a review (and more than half the fun) is understanding where the reviewer is coming from. If that is, in fact, the case; then we all have to be prepared for a conversation just a little messier than the one you're advocating. We're going to be talking about the song, we're going to be talking about our tastes, and we're going to be talking about each other's tastes, and we're going to be talking about each other.

I'm sorry if you took my comment over-seriously--I mean, sure; I meant it as a jab at you, but not in a mean way. You have a method of reviewing songs that I think the site is richer for, and you are clearly respected by your fellow users for your even-handed method of reviewing, and your sharply defined form certainly communicates how you feel about a song, and the tools you are using to feel about a song, but we can't all be expected to follow this example; nor should we.

I know you're not advocating this either, but what I think you are actually saying is also a little strange--that we keep any and all comments not relating to the song out of the comment in which we actually vote (please correct me if I'm wrong). I mean, that seems a little arbitrary, don't you think?
Mr. Pony [10/23/2006 6:15:50 PM EST]
Score: +0
um
NovaVox [10/23/2006 2:26:44 PM EST]
Score: +0
Pony, I used to think you were cool.
singmetofire [10/23/2006 2:04:20 PM EST]
Score: +0
You know, sometimes this site really pisses me off.
FIRST OF ALL, there are different teirs and levels of EVERY genre.
Yes, the whole posthardcore / screamo thing, has its own. Just as the whole "indie / retro" thing has them also.
I don't label "EVERYTHING" retro, but COMEON people.
I have EVERY #@&%!ING RIGHT to get JUST as annoyed with the fact that
interpool, the strokes, the vines, the von bondies, the yeah yeah yeahs, wolfmother, the white stripes, the bravery, the killers, ALL come out at the same time, milking the SAME TEET
As YOU have right, to get mad at the fact that
My checmical romance, story of the year, atreyu, hawthorne heights, etc...all come out, and YOU hate them. Point is, i like some of those "Retro" bands i listed, and i like some of those "Screamo" bands i listed, here's the thing.

When you realize that we all have our own tastes and whatnot, i think we can ALL agree, that YES, there is a little bit of a "retro" fad going on, just as much as there is a "Screamo" fad going on, WHAT THE #@&%! EVER.

Point is, SOME bands go out there, and they play the same exact chord progression, same exact drums, same exact what-the-#@&%!-ever some band already did before, and if you are a musician, you can hear it, and you can hear when a band MAY, SOUND like someone else, but is also just as redeaming in it's own right, For example, the success of Wolfmother over the Vines, someone who doesnt pay attention to this grene would say "It's all retro garbage" but people who know that genre will say "No no, there is A LOT different, you just don't HEAR it"

Well, i say this, CSS your a rotting vagina on wheels, you will always hate my, becuase im just a stupid young idiot. At least we have some sort of agreement.

As for this song, it's poorly recorded, has about as much energy as week old turd, and the same talent.

Say what you will about Nova's band, Or My #@&%!ing band for that matter, but at least we're working hard at portraying actual emotions, things we really, feel very passionate about.

So much so that we take it seriously, we want good recordings, so we can really make sure that feeling that we're trying to portray gets to the listener the right way, it MAY not be your cup of tea, But, you know that's fine.

Btw, which EMO band is it we sound like?
The Get Up Kids? Sunny Day Real Estate? Mabye you were thinking of Elliot Smith? Bright Eyes? Deceparacideos? The Promise Ring?

Oh wait, nevermind. Your just a #@&%!ing retard.
qualcomm [10/23/2006 10:05:56 AM EST]
Score: +0
from what i know of the horrible band called my chemical romance (which, blessedly, is very little), these guys sound nothing like them, nor are trying to.
O-U-8-1-2 [10/23/2006 9:56:46 AM EST]
Score: +0
You're right Mr. Pony.

This song can go to hell.
Mr. Pony [10/23/2006 9:51:45 AM EST]
Score: +0
O-U-8-1-2, please limit your comments to the song. I believe Nova has a rating form you can fill out.
O-U-8-1-2 [10/23/2006 9:20:30 AM EST]
Score: +0
"Rubber and Steel" more like "Pi@# and Sh&%" maybe music isn't for you guys. Maybe the song would be a little better if I jabbed q-tips repeatedly in both of my ears, and the blood filling my ear canals would act as a buffer of your sucking. My suck buffer, that's what I'll call it. Not everybody can be My Chemical Romance you know. You gave it a good attempt though boys and/or girls. Speaking of MCR, they're texting me right now. Gotta go

-See ya in hell f@#$ers.
Mr. Bratty [10/22/2006 3:10:01 PM EST]
Score: +0
hee hee
Mr. Bratty [10/22/2006 3:09:29 PM EST]
Score: +0
the fact that i commented at all is a testment to my level of addiction to this place.
Mr. Bratty [10/22/2006 3:07:04 PM EST]
Score: +0
i've had company over and it's the wife's birthday today.
NovaVox [10/22/2006 3:05:15 PM EST]
Score: +0
Oh, always at the last minute Bratty....you need a better watch.
Mr. Bratty [10/22/2006 3:03:54 PM EST]
Score: +0
damn, and i was just going to totally agree. oh well, 3 paragraphs of commentary... deleted.
NovaVox [10/22/2006 3:02:40 PM EST]
Score: +0
Yeah, I give.
sedrite [10/22/2006 3:01:33 PM EST]
Score: +0
Nova, you are fighting a losing battle here bud...having expressed your preference clearly, perhaps it makes sense to move on...
NovaVox [10/22/2006 2:57:58 PM EST]
Score: +0
I can't see why this is so hard to understand.

I don't want to be a dick, but I have to point out thay you are kinda missing the main crux of what I'm saying.

Discuss, sure, say everything you want to anyone you want.

When you rate, JUST RATE, don't mention how dumb other users are...US news and world report, Bin Laden. JUST TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL SONG.

When you drop the stars, you shouldn't be mentioning any other reason than why you are giving THIS song THOSE stars...you aren't rating singmetofire, you are rating the SONG.
Mr. Pony [10/22/2006 9:30:16 AM EST]
Score: +0
Well; to that I guess I'd say that every comment on every song deserves at least the chance to be taken seriously... Even singtomefire's comments, Nova. I think CSS shows great respect for the song, the artist, the community, and especially singtomefire; by taking the time and making the effort to refute singtomefire's comments--whether she is citing some sort of error in his reasoning, character, or brain tissue. What is the point of all this, if no discussion takes place? Call me old-fashioned, but I believe that it's in dialectical conversation that we have a chance of understanding matters of art; not with talking points and mathematically derived charts and graphs, and certainly not by calling members of the community unimportant.
sedrite [10/22/2006 3:27:11 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2.5 stars
This one doesn't bear up as well under repeated listens as say...Eloquence...

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to start a vag-core band.
mikebritt [10/22/2006 3:26:19 AM EST]
Score: +0
get with the times, people. anything that isn't screamo or posthardcore is in the past and therefore is not worth doing anymore.
NovaVox [10/22/2006 1:58:36 AM EST]
Score: +0
Seriously captain...or should I say Mr....

The comment was about singme and his musical taste, not the song.

I don't have any problem with her bashing him right after she comments, but the comment that contains the rating should simply contain comments about the song.

It is simply folly to believe that singme is so important (to the music world in general) that his mention in the comment would somehow prove some universal point that needed to be made about this song and the genre it fits in.

No offense to singme, but you are hard pressed to make a case for even someone say like the Flaming Lips being so pivotal to a comment that they make a musical point so important that it cannot be omitted.
Mr. Pony [10/22/2006 12:11:31 AM EST]
Score: +0
I submit that CSS's comment WAS about the music... She seems to have been pointing out that singtomefire hates anything that he deems 'retro', and that he deems quite a lot of stuff 'retro', and therefore the validity (or perhaps usefulness) of his half-star vote should be called into question. I'd say that CSS was simply doing her civic duty. I mean, we can't all leave our comments as powerpoint presentations, dude.
NovaVox [10/21/2006 3:24:11 PM EST]
Score: +0
I don't disagree.

I didn't say they can't snipe each other or generally argue until they turn blue.

Just keep it in a separate comment. Give the submitter some honest feedback in any way you want (be an ass for all I care), but keep your rating comment about the music.
qualcomm [10/21/2006 3:19:41 PM EST]
Score: +0
i don't know, nova-- that's what talking about music does. it gets people to argue, not just about the music, but about each other. that's part of the interest, if you ask me.
NovaVox [10/21/2006 3:19:17 PM EST]
Score: +0
*grammar.
NovaVox [10/21/2006 3:16:27 PM EST]
Score: +0
I bitch and complain as much as the next guy, but if I leave a rating, it won't have anything in it but a rating and comments on the song.
NovaVox [10/21/2006 3:15:22 PM EST]
Score: +0
I just wish people would rate in one comment, about nothing but the song....and then bitch in another separate comment.

I hate seeing "Dude you are totally wrong (enter name), your taste sucks, I don't know why you even come here. This song is better than any of yours #@&%!" - 4 stars
NovaVox [10/21/2006 3:13:33 PM EST]
Score: +0
Cobain - are you seriously going to continue to play this sniper game?

You basically come to the rescue of every artist who disagrees with the people you don't like on RedFizz...

I'd like to see one comment/rating from you that is motivated by nothing more than genuinely liking or hating a song.

Out of that book you just wrote below, the equivalent of 3 sentences (if you were using good grammer) were about the song here, and the other 10 sentences (equivalently) were about singmetofire.

aaronlife [10/21/2006 11:59:23 AM EST]
Score: +0
lol singme
Mr. Pony [10/21/2006 11:54:44 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
Hey, CSS, singtomefire's predictably negative response to anything he thinks is "retro" may be childish, poorly thought-out, and patently ridiculous, but it IS, in fact, the opinion he holds. I mean, that's what he BELIEVES. Surely you're not disputing that!

As for this song, I really like it. I find it strange that so many seem to think the production quality is unintentional. I think it works in the song's favor, in this case.
Cobainsaxsolo [10/21/2006 9:32:16 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3 stars
Sing, you realize that most of that nebulous cloud of music you are always condemning as "retro garbage" is so much better than the whiney, Indigo Baby storybook-oh-what-about-me-and-my-feelings- vag-core you are so fond of (because you are a sad, unimaginative little creature with a vulgar, dopey, cro-magnon aesthetic) that math is incapable of coming up with a tally. This song is fine. It lacks verve, is a bit repetitive and runs long at 5 minutes plus, but I agree with qualcomm. the insticnts are there, and that counts for a lot. When you describe this music, and say bands like The White Stripes, as "retro indie garbage #@&%!" that means we may theoretically have to hire word engineers to invent new models to describe the god awful depths to which you and your croines navel gazing muzak is lowered to.

qualcomm [10/21/2006 1:10:35 AM EST]
Score: +0
i am not a nice guy. don't let singme fool you.
NovaVox [10/20/2006 8:53:23 PM EST]
Score: +0
Man I hope you realize the you are only making yourself out to look like more of an ass.
NovaVox [10/20/2006 8:25:28 PM EST]
Score: +0
He just dropped a poo on one of your songs and one of mine.

Nice guy, definitely not easily hurt or judgemental in any way.
singmetofire [10/20/2006 7:35:47 PM EST]
Score: +0
wow. that one had some stank on it
singmetofire [10/20/2006 7:34:34 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 0.5 stars
Alright, the production quality on this is really sub par.
The vocals arent terrible, but the vocal effect is.
The drums strike me as sub par also, not really anything going on on this song at all, acually, that makes me want to listen.
QC, is a nice guy. Don't let him fool you with all that "your a great songwriter" talk.
He's just tryin to get our goat.
What he really meant to say was
"Your music WOULD sound like all of the other retro indie garbage #@&%! on the radio right now, if it was a little better"
Anyway. I hate this.
markfrimmel [10/20/2006 7:23:18 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3.5 stars
Nice alternative/garage feel with a bit of distinction. 3.5 mark christopher
Mr. Bratty [10/20/2006 5:14:34 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
i like 'em! they are the heirs apparrent to the gbv niche.
qualcomm [10/20/2006 5:07:35 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3 stars
ah, don't listen to these jerks. it's sloppy, but your songwriting and instincts are still way better than most of the other musicians on this site.
2fsplit [10/20/2006 3:05:28 PM EST]
Score: +0
So I just went and listened to all your tracks (Im extremely bored at work today!)
Guys, ANY money you make gigging NEEDS to be put into your recordings! This is your "buisness card"!! The recording quality hurts your overall sound tremendously. Get in a good studio with a good pro. You get what you pay for.

The guitars sound out of tune and your drummer sounds like a pair of sneakers in the dryer! USE A CLICK TRACK!

Not trying to be a dick in any way, just wanna give it to you in black and white. Dont get discouraged , get inspired! Keep plugging!!
alpinetanker11 [10/20/2006 2:42:19 PM EST]
Score: +0
hey thanks everyone for the comments.
one thing...i gave you the wrong song. i feel so bad.
ALL POSITION CAREER OPPORTUNITIES
sounds like this: www.myspace.com/at11
THROUGH SYLVANIA is the song i gave you to judge.
if you'll agree, APCO is a much more REDFIZZ worthy track; ie no long song development time, less #@&%!ty recording ect.
should i upload the right song or just dissapear for a while.
again, very sorry
-dan (alpine tanker 11)

ps.i love this site.
NovaVox [10/20/2006 2:31:52 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2 stars
10 Sec Rule: Production is lousy. I see some potential here, let's see when the vocal starts where we stand...

The radio voice is ok, and the singer can do that ineffectual delivery thing. The song takes too long to get to the chorus and when it does it doesn't pay off for me.

Then when it comes back to "verse" the addition of the louder (more distorted) guitar doesn't add much for me. The vocal gets a little pitchy in the second verse and the addition (again) of the second voice makes this more obvious.

1. Technical ability
2. Good tone choice
3. Playing the right part for the song
4. Feeling
5. Originality

This gets:

1) 3 (Musicianship isn't bad, but I feel this could have been so much smoother)
2) 1 (Production is aweful, and all the "power" elements fell short due to tone)
3) 2 (Arrangement meandering, but with better production might have seemed ok)
4) 2 (The feel is damaged considerably by production, shame)
5) 2 (Lots of bands sound like this, in college bars)

Overall: 2
Mr. Bratty [10/20/2006 2:25:05 PM EST]
Score: +0
uncle bob may want to talk to you about this...
2fsplit [10/20/2006 1:08:40 PM EST]
Score: +0
Sorry Alpine Tanker, but this song is horrible and so is the production quality.Guys how did this even get considered?
monkman [10/20/2006 7:08:19 AM EST]
Score: +0
ps
why can't you just be Alpine Tanker?
that's obscure enough
surely it's not a password? - you know type password A Tank....
into Yahoo mail only to be told you
can have it but you are the 11th......!
monkman [10/20/2006 7:04:15 AM EST]
Score: +0
...."rock...." Sorry boys, there's an a priori law that a song with the line
"empirical lies" can't be called "rock" - as was the case with "sea of entropy".
:-)
Nevermind - it's a good song, a bit rough around the edges, but with a nice groove
and feel. Muy bien!
ScottT [10/20/2006 6:52:18 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2.5 stars
The song is very well done. The recording is a bit rough, but I like the overall structure and feel of the piece.
Jack Kauf [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
Vocals sound a little muffled, but an overall good song
Mr. Bratty [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
i like rock.
sedrite [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
I also like rock. And tock. And sock.
Booed Offstage (1)
alpinetanker11 [10/20/2006 8:51:03 PM EST]
Score: +0
emo fags

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