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2/16/2007

The Size Queens - Hailing from SF, The Size Queens work with many talented musicians and non-musicians alike to bring their songs to strangers around the world. Members include current and former members of Abel Mouton and The Tastemakers, Pocket Shelley, Roman Evening, Glasstown, The Ebb and Flow, Bob Frank & John Murry, and many others. 
No Hooks (Supermodel)
Weighted Rating: [53 Votes, 3.05 Stars]
Views: 6,644
Featured Review
stairwellsongs [3/6/2007 4:49:50 PM EST]
Score: +51
Um, hello Size Queens. My name is Stairwellsongs, and I have question for you.

Why do you think this song is so smart?

I mean, it's fine, I kind of like it actually, it's cute, slightly clever and slightly catchy, and I don't mind the repitition. But everytime someone criticizes it you assume that they must be too #@&%!ing dumb to understand your profound insights, your cutting wit, the rhetorical might with which you've rent asunder American mini-mall hypocrisy. So explain to me, please, why this song (which, again, I actually do like) is particularly smart. I mean, golly, it's kind of ironic... you say something while sort of meaning the opposite! You must be the new Shakespeare or some #@&%!! You know what I always say: if there's one thing that's sorely lacking in today's indie rock, it's distanced, over-intellectualized irony. Thanks for making us all smarter.

On the other hand, I can't hear all the lyrics clearly. Maybe there's some unbelievable literary genius that I'm missing. Enlighten me.
HarlanPepper [3/8/2011 2:05:46 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2.5 stars
curious to hear more from this band
Mr. Bratty [12/19/2010 3:10:52 AM EST]
Score: +0
i still love this one.
Richie Isaacs [11/22/2008 4:35:22 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 0.5 stars
aaronlife [4/7/2007 12:11:22 PM EST]
Score: +0
good song
pechkin [4/1/2007 4:46:35 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4.5 stars
this song is not the best Size Queens song, but it deserves a hall of fame treatment here at Red Fizz, it's imaginative, good performance,no hooks, great vocals drumming.
some retractors here are just jealous.
Queens, you rock.
miss_braniff_air [3/15/2007 5:53:24 PM EST]
Score: +0
Touche, MeatMachinell
unklesam [3/15/2007 5:22:36 PM EST]
Score: +0
I like your leericks
MeatMachineII [3/15/2007 5:05:43 PM EST]
Score: +0
yeah its getting mroe and more fun as it goes on i always get #@&%! for spelling your like that but havent really started to care as soon as any of this matters ill start caring about grammar punctuation or run on sentences and by then this whole thing will bo long over and everyone will have forgotten so all i can do is say WHATEVA
miss_braniff_air [3/15/2007 3:39:32 PM EST]
Score: +0
god i love this this little area on redfizz!!! Thank you TSQ and for all of your detractors. All i ask is for MeatMachinell to try to spell the word "your" appropriately (sorry, i'm a former teacher - i can't help it). I believe most of the time you mean "you're". But please, keep your posts coming MM - i've enjoyed this very much.
singmetofire [3/15/2007 3:28:00 PM EST]
Score: +10
awesome, now all i need is a two page dissertation on what every single line of this song REALLY means, and i can appreciate it for what it REALLY is.
ozymandias king of kings [3/15/2007 3:16:49 PM EST]
Score: +0

NO HOOKS
(The Size Queens)


I've started...

It took me years to destroy my face and my family
It took me years to earn my disgrace and my almost-Grammy

So if this song it has no hooks
It's because I have the looks of a supermodel
What else does it need
Besides the greed of a supermodel

It took me years to lose my child to the court
It took me years to play an instrument: The Tambourine

[chorus]

It took me years and years to destroy my life
I had to stoop to street drugs and children half my age

[chorus]

Aaaaah

[music]

No on taught me how to live or how to give
Only how to take and how to make

Music like this requires so little
I have more than enough to give

[chorus]

I never learned to write a chorus or a bridge
Nobody told me that a song requires a melody

And I roll around in boots
I roll around in these high boots
On the largest stage
On the largest stage
That I've ever played
Oh that I've ever played

[chorus]

Oh it looks so good
I hope the cover's right
Let's shoot the picture tonight
Let's shoot the picture tonight

So if it has no hooks
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Let's get the picture right
qualcomm [3/15/2007 3:13:43 PM EST]
Score: +0
you know, oz, references alone do not a great lyric make. i mean, who really cares that you have a song about iraq, unless the song says something interesting about it, or at least says whatever it says in a clever or funny way? judging from the couplet you supplied, we are not amused.
MeatMachineII [3/15/2007 3:11:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
btw you are closing in on the record so lets keep bickering.
MeatMachineII [3/15/2007 3:10:26 PM EST]
Score: +0
song isnt pretentious, you are, i think you got an overall positive response for your music. It was your #@&%!ty attitudes that got people up in arms. People got pissy about your fans coming and 5 starring instead of giving better reviews, (i dont think you have any responsibility for what your fans do) but it was the way you responded that made people think you were pretentious.

Hope this cleared things up.
ozymandias king of kings [3/15/2007 3:03:50 PM EST]
Score: +0
Hi all. I'm the keyboard player in the Size Queens, and the co-writer of "No Hooks". I've stayed out of the fray, but thought I'd chime in now that everbody has chased themselves up trees and ossified themselves in corners.

Personally, I find this song wildly entertaining, and the lyrics (which I didn't write) a beautiful combination of carelessness and incision. But it's okay if other people don't. I helped create the ride, but you don't have to go on it.

Stairwells asks "Why do you think this song is so smart?" But given the rest of Stairwell's post, I don't think that's a sincere question. I think if I gave the real answer (which would take time because I think this song is smart in lots ways), I would be accused of being pretentious. And that would start the whole vicious argument over.

What I will do is post the lyrics so Stairwell can draw his or her own conclusions.

It's possible that a lot of people might find the Size Queens pretentious. I think we're just unapologetic. We know we're writing songs that have levels of meaning, and that bear repeated listening and further scrutiny. We know that we're creating a body of work in which songs speak to each other and themes get worked on in different ways at different times. And we're not really interested in going "aw shucks" about it or pretending it's an accident. We stand behind what we do, plus we have fun, and some people (including some real smarties) share our sense of humor. There you have it, like it or not.

"No Hooks" stands on its own, but I'll add: The song before it on the record "Is it In Yet?" is about a woman who joins the Weather Underground and participates in blowing up a toilet in the Pentagon. The story is treated as a family drama, with reactions from her splintered family. The song after "No Hooks" on the record is about the war in Iraq, but starts as a song about Woodstock II, the failed attempt to recreate the Woodstock concert and market its great promise of the brotherhood of man. Sample line: "Well we drove over their houses in our tanks. The children took our candy, but our morale just sank."

That's just some of the larger context for the line "It took me years to destroy my face and my family" in "No Hooks."
aaronlife [3/13/2007 6:11:58 PM EST]
Score: +0
unless you buy quarks in bulk from a supplier, then maybe they would be cheaper
MeatMachineII [3/13/2007 5:17:22 PM EST]
Score: +0
lets keep arguing so this song will ahve the most comments. Size queens your a big jerk and I hate you, please responde and you will hold the record
miss_braniff_air [3/13/2007 12:34:25 AM EST]
Score: +0
I'm stunned by all the banter this song has generated. Well done Size Queens. After listening to this song and really digging it, i went to their myspace page and listened to their other songs. wow. i'm not really getting the verbal tennis match going on, but i do know that they write some really great songs.
qualcomm [3/12/2007 10:05:58 AM EST]
Score: +0
you can debate their friendship in the forum
aaronlife [3/12/2007 10:01:22 AM EST]
Score: +0
i'm starting to think quarks might be more expensive than atoms
Here is Cindi [3/12/2007 9:58:13 AM EST]
Score: -30
Dear Wordgirl62 -

For the record, nobody BROWBEAT me into anything. The "principle lyricist" and I had a disagreement of views about one song and the overall content of the record, which I initially found to be too intense to take in all in one sitting. We hashed it out as FRIENDS do and resolved the issue. Period. My best friend is in this band and has worked with the "principle lyricist" on several other projects all of which I'm very fond of. The point of my bringing up the argument was to show that just because the band had friends posting on here supporting their music did not suggest that they were all lock-step devotees, once people started whaling on us for posting. The whole point of much of the "principle lyricists" work is to foment thought, discussion and on occaision, even argument. It's what he does and who he is. Take it or leave it. And speaking of taking it and leaving it, keep me out of your arguments with him. I'm no longer involved in this thread because I've posted all I needed to and it's the song you are debating, not my friendship, which you really know nothing about. Thank you.
jbrown [3/9/2007 10:39:34 PM EST]
Score: +0
I gave this song 4 stars and heard it first in the battle, then went to myspace to listen further. I got a huge kick out of it, (though I did think it too long) and recommended it to a colleague, but after all this ego wrangling, I haven't listened again. It now leaves the impression of a one hit wonder. Perhaps in a few months I could enjoy this again.
wordgirl62 [3/9/2007 9:34:12 PM EST]
Score: +10
I'm sorry if you got the wrong idea, Queens; My original intent in my first comment to you, which came after a morning full of contentious snapping on your part towards fellow Fizzers who were giving you much love, as far as any reasonable person could see, was not to tell you that No Hooks is pretentious as hell, but rather, that YOU are pretentious as hell. (Take that anyway you want to. I really don't give a rat's ass!) The condescension you treated all the regulars here with, some of your seemingly brain-washed "followers" that had to write long essays telling the listener what the song is all about...it finally got to me. In my opinion, the song should accomplish that! Yes, whether one" feels" something for a song is irrelevant sometimes...But even a band as cerebral as the Talking Heads make me "feel" most of the time, even if I just FEEL like dancing or getting piss drunk and wrecking a car! Like I said, your song didn't "move" me. ( But then, that would make sense; according to you, I am a "non-entity." That means I don't have any "feelings," then, doesn't it? ) How ironic! I'm a freakin' genious, world! I can note irony!

By the way, as far as the song goes, it isn't bad. I never attacked your song. And I already know about about the Velvet Underground, Nico, Andy Warhol, Lou Reed, etcet#@&%!inetera! It is peculiar that you automatically assume no-one could know what your song is about. But in large, I was never drawn to that stuff--I found that scene cocaine-and-heroine-fueled, uninspired and tacky.(Blame it on the fact that I didn't like Caberet very much as a four year-old, I guess...) I really didn't think the song warranted a second play based on my first open-minded experience with it--that's all I can say--The fake german accent was just a bit grating to me, too--Warsheinlich weil ich die Deutsch Sprache sehr gut sprechen and verstehen can ...It's not that I didn't get it, it's that I did, and just don't like campy stuff...I found this too campy for my tastes, although I know Rocky Horror Picture Show probably still is a cult favorite and your song must have many fans...I'm sure many of them are nice and not so angry. Maybe I would actually like some of your other work if your vindictive nature didn't supercede your art...

I know my opinion means a lot to you, so now you have it, along with a delusion that you are the more intelligent being, and I am but a crack-whore in a trailer in (where was it you said I lived?--the Appalachians or the Ozarks?) (And no, I 'm not slamming the Appalachians, nor the Ozarks, nor trailers, nor crack-whores! )Everyone knows I'm the sweet, nice, bland critic who would never hurt a fly...(I get #@&%! for it all the time!)

Funny how you dish it out, but can't take it when someone gives an honest opinion...Hearing how the "principal lyricist" browbeat poor This Is Cindi until she was in tears, and yet, finally, she saw the light and came around to your way of thinking concerns me. Sounds a bit like the Stockholm Syndrome ...

Now, please, I'm begging of you, cease and desist!
lostear [3/9/2007 12:30:12 AM EST]
Score: -9
Rated 4 stars
How'd this little gem get overlooked; practically ignored? Don't let it get you down ... you've should keep posting, I hear potential here.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [3/8/2007 11:27:25 PM EST]
Score: -8
Dear Stairwellsongs,
you will not find any commentary by me suggesting that this song has any literary brilliance. What you will find are a series of attacks by "reviewers" who assume that a) we're ironic and without feeling b) pretentious and elitist C) that we've brought our friends over to earn stars (as though we were in competition with every band on this site, and some great prize were at the end of this experiment) d) that we don't accept peace offerings e) other miscellaneous diatribes regarding our proficiency as musicians, our lack of production, our failure to satisfy, and our overall need to compensate for these terrible failures by writing comments in response to your neutral reviewers. Let me dispel, one last time, the idea that we're over-sensitive to criticism. I think I've stated that everyone is entitled to liking or not liking the song. What I do respond to is people who judge the song based-- really --upon the comments that people made prior to their posting, as you have done. I think a good example of this comes from wordgirl herself:
"Pretentious as hell. We are not idiots here--not all of us anyway...Something is wrong with being so into avant-guarde crap that you forget music is supposed to move people...People who are listening should be able to "get it" without Daniel Webster and his ten thousand closest friends logging on with their explanations of what the song is about and how we should all be feeling about it...The song should do that by itself! This doesn't come close to moving me. Only one opinion, of course...Can't wait to see how many big-word-tossing troops are sent out to punish me for speaking my mind! (Ever thought of having a book club? You guys could all get together to impress the $#%! out of one another! I tingle at the mere thought!"
Now, I don't claim to know wordgirl, as many of you do, but I do know an aggressive "review" when I read it. It seemed to me to lack any real relevance to the song, which has no difficult words or concepts, and is meant, in fact, to be fun-- although sad, in the sense that it was inspired by the musician and former-frontperson for the Velvets, Nico. Another funny thing I notice about RedFizz is how comments are scored. Every attack on the band gets the gang in a flurry of support (Your +25 score is indicative of the overall trend), while every attempt to offer even a reasoned response to specific attacks made by us wins us nothing but disapproval. Again, I don't think you're all playing fair here. I also find it strange that wordgirl, offering to sell her book for $10.00 was supposed to have been taken as a peaace offering. I urge you to read that comment and explain how my response was somehow inappropriate; I had not meant any offense, but can't control how things will be interpreted. The fact is, Stairwellsongs, I think The Size Queens have been good sports, only violating the oaths of respectability in a couple of posts in which I will duly take credit for expressing anger-- the meatmachineII comments were perhaps mean-spirited, and I did apologize, and I think it only fair to bury the hatchet. They're probably nice guys, and wordgirl, we probably would have plenty in common if we weren't in this forum, which has become a bit of a vicious chariot race. But I'm not interested in duking it out, but putting this to rest. If, Stairwellsongs, you think your comment was written as earnest probing, I have to ask you why this --I expect it was a word--#@&%!ing appears twice, and you end your commentary, rhetorically, with the lines: "You know what I always say: if there's one thing that's sorely lacking in today's indie rock, it's distanced, over-intellectualized irony. Thanks for making us all smarter. On the other hand, I can't hear all the lyrics clearly. Maybe there's some unbelievable literary genius that I'm missing. Enlighten me." No, I don't believe you're asking for any enlightenment by me or anyone else. This was your way of repeating the same sentiment we've seen throughout this thread: sit down, get humble, roll over, and learn from us for awhile. But what's to learn? Has this point not been made, again and again? I have tried, in our myspace blogs, to explain why I don't think The Size Queens need to comply just because some would prefer we take abuse lightly. You will notice many people in this thread who simply expressed an opinion and did not incur a response. To each his/her own. And we'll continue to do what we do in the hopes that some may grow fonder of the song, and those who don't, will find other artists here they do enjoy. Best, TSQ
singmetofire [3/8/2007 6:01:45 PM EST]
Score: +10
i honestly don't understand what is so absurd about someone wanting to feel something from the music they listen to.
wordgirl62 [3/8/2007 4:18:28 PM EST]
Score: +0
Size Queens, I am not "selling it off," I merely asked if you'd like it. I enjoyed Johnson's reading back in college very much, which is why I stood in line and bought the book and had her sign it to me...When I read you are familiar with the writer, I felt like maybe we had a bit in common, and wanted to make a peace offering. Sorry you misinterpreted my intent. I highly value my books, and will certainly keep it if you're not interested. I only asked for a bit of money for it 'cause I can't make ends meet as it is, and it would help with postage/handling, and the gas to go to the post office to mail it to you. Oh, and as always, thanks so very much for correcting me. I wanted to correct a few things you've put in print about me, but I've kept from it, fearing this would only set you off again.
aaronlife [3/8/2007 10:35:38 AM EST]
Score: +0
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the_size_queens (song submitter) [3/8/2007 1:53:08 AM EST]
Score: -10
You must admit, Minor Characters is quite a portrait of the times. I'm sad to hear that you're selling it off. But perhaps it's time. Ebay or amazon are probably better sites for selling it, though. But I must correct you -- its not Leslie who feels for her cat, but the narrator of American Genius, Helen, who does...
wordgirl62 [3/7/2007 8:26:20 PM EST]
Score: +0
Was just skimming your piece on "sensitivity", Queens-- Anyone want my signed copy of Minor Characters ( The Romantic Odyssey of a Woman in the Beat Generation) by Joyce Johnson, the one that was put out in 1984? I'll let you have it for ten dollars...'cause you're so nice. Also, it warmed my heart the way that ole Manson girl, Leslie Van Houton, (sp.?) felt about her ferral kitty...She "felt" something for the cat...Sweet!
evitageN [3/6/2007 6:35:01 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2.5 stars
Not bad, but drums and voice really got to me at the end.
wordgirl62 [3/6/2007 6:34:15 PM EST]
Score: +15
Oh, by the way, I am bookish and have beaten down by the playground bully most all my life, am presently being beaten down by someone every single day....(That should make you happy!) Never meant to attack your song, just to stick up for the nice folks here at the 'Fizz, whom I've found to be remarkably well-informed as well as helpful and kind...and to whom you were coming at spitting tacks for the interest they showed in your song. The fact that what I said was so powerful that it was the last straw for you is a real compliment! I'm on the top of the world now; in fact I can see your house from where I live (in Virginia!) Edit THIS!
aaronlife [3/6/2007 6:04:17 PM EST]
Score: +0
#@&%!, i give up
aaronlife [3/6/2007 6:04:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
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aaronlife [3/6/2007 6:03:12 PM EST]
Score: +0
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MeatMachineII [3/6/2007 6:01:49 PM EST]
Score: +0
ps, i thought you were in ny, but your in SF, but if you are in ny come play dodgeball.
MeatMachineII [3/6/2007 6:00:59 PM EST]
Score: +0
To TSQ, Noone, I have genuinely come to like you as the day passes, I checked out the band, you guys remind as a whole of some time I spent in france. That top song you've got on the myspace is rock solid. You guys rea very artsy, very contemporary, and you can find a big fanbase here at redfizz. Its not your fault your fans come in 5 starring, I dont think anyone should hold you to that. Yeah itd be cool if they used a bit of discretion and took an outside view. I read a lot of what you had to say on your blog, you are a smart and well educated guy, you can understand why it frustrates people when things like that happen, but obvisouly its not your fault. Ok, ok, If i were a bit more level headed i would've been singing this tune from the start, but i guess we had to duke it out, lets call it amends and submit some more tunes.

Sincerely wishing you a long fizz career,
MMII
ScottT [3/6/2007 5:42:10 PM EST]
Score: +0
Accepted-now post some more songs so we can start a new fun thread !!! :)
Sum Tin Wong [3/6/2007 5:41:43 PM EST]
Score: +35
Rated 2.5 stars
My immediate response to this was that it sounds theatrical, like something out of Rocky Horror Picture Show. The percussion is aggressive and loud in the mix and I get the feeling it is competing with the vocals for attention. I like the piano melody. The lyrics are very repetitious, which does not appeal to me, and the ending is droning monotony, which may or may not be intended. This type/genre of music has an audience and would probably be loved by those types of listeners. What I do find very interesting is the publicity stunt that has occurred here. You've managed to get a lot of press by being reactionary to every negative comment. If you are going to bring this music out of it's click, then expect that not everyone will enjoy it as much as you and yours obviously do.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [3/6/2007 5:39:11 PM EST]
Score: +3
My apologies to those who've felt so alienated by my postings. I vowed I wouldn't write a peep, and here I've gone on. Even I can get a good laugh out of this. I swear -- TSQ NEVER said our songs were smart, or those who didn't like it were dumb. I was only railing against the idea that was started early in the comments that we were, basically, bookish snots. The moment we started getting 5 stars, people came after us with attacks on reviews of the song that they thought were too heady. Maybe we cater to an academic crowd. It's not necessarily our intention. I thought the song was funny and sad in a way, but I never thought it Shakespeare or even Morrissey--and we had every intention to make it imperfect, so those comments didn't excite me. I will cease and desist any further attacks on redfizz -- and by the way, I've reviewed a few songs since posting --- My last words: if bookish people like the song, I'm happy. I'm standing up only for those who've been beaten down by playground bullies.
ScottT [3/6/2007 5:38:51 PM EST]
Score: +15
oh-and Wordgirl does not live in West Virginia , though she would be welcome in this fine State anytime
unklesam [3/6/2007 5:14:03 PM EST]
Score: +0
ahhh point taken, I'm drinking today, but it does look like Mitch, I knew a duy once named Mitchka, a russian,

you a badass too! cheers
MeatMachineII [3/6/2007 5:11:31 PM EST]
Score: +0
unklesam, you've never been wrong before, so i am legally changing my name to mitchell to maintain that for you.
MeatMachineII [3/6/2007 5:08:41 PM EST]
Score: +10
I dont disagree with a single word you said just now. And I've got to say, I don't hate your song, and never did. I think its too long for its simplicity, you disagree. Fair enough. Our dispute is a personal one, I don't hate you, as a matter of fact Im in ny, we could hang out some time, and Ill come to your show, and have a blast. I just think you were being a tool there for a minute. You got pretty uppity about everyones comments and started dishing it to people who are being honest with you. I tell you what, if your going to pursue making music for a public forum and you can't stand negative comments, even if they are uncalled for, its not a great idea to take it so personally. I didn't like your song, so what. Many people think its too long, your getting defensive, does that change our opinion. No, it just makes us think your a dick. You've got a brain in your head, that much I can tell by your last post, I dont think you are incapable, I dont think you are wrong, or bad, or not as good as anyone else. To tell you the truth if someone came at me throwing knives, id come back with an axe. And as soon as I come at you throwing knives, you can gladly axe me in the skull. But we are talkign about a song here, there are no knives, just dickish comments. I do like the fact that you won't rest until you feel you've nailed us all, but #@&%! you, I never give up.

Honestly, you can write good songs, im sure of it, theres a ton of potential in the wong you've submitted here. I would've had a chance to mention that if I wasnt so distracted by the bull#@&%! you were spewing beforehand. By the way, I agree thats its cool to bring new people to redfizz, it sucks when they just 5 star you and never come back again, but thats not your fault. I hope you understand that its not the principle that we disagree on, its your means of communicating it to me.


The best I can do is this, come hang out at redfizz, keep submitting music, review other peoples tracks and get a feel for it, and maybe you'll understand why 'we' in general got so pissed off.

If you want to settle this, you can come to Brewster Ny and play dodgeball with me over the summer.
unklesam [3/6/2007 5:07:27 PM EST]
Score: +0
this is my fav part of the size queens blog on myspace " We also return from our "premier" at the Red Fizz blog, home to a few fine folks, and a few "top critics" with terribly dire lives and tastes" and...his turned the Stalinist "top reviewers" on us; they simply went mad, overturning tables, spitting out spoiled mother's milk – not only in attacks on the song (which were fine, even expected) but on the people who liked it. Some of the groaning comments that we were privy to were so absurd as to be hilarious: things like "I want to FEEL something when I listen to a song." and.....


Now, I must say, we generated a lot of traffic for their site, and we took our blows and maintained our integrity until I'd finally heard enough from some West Virginia non-entity crowing under the name "Wordgirl." I'd reached my limit with her. Angry at the supporters of a song she couldn't "feel," she lashed out at their intelligent commentary as though they were speaking another language, as though they were worse than illegal immigrants, or even worse: people who might suspect that the Commander In Chief is not in command (though I'm sure she'd pronounce that she's a good democrat).

I think your views of redfizz have entertained us greatly. It is nice to know that you're playing it cool, but you really do still care.

Mitchell, I thank you but seriously doubt you'd want my face tatooed on your shoulder. I think that's one of the nicest things anyone here's said though.
singmetofire [3/6/2007 5:01:06 PM EST]
Score: +0
size queens, i really think you're taking this a little too seriously.
I think a lot of people have addressed the common understanding about the kind of person you are. maybe if you didn't try to make everything say seem like you were speaking to a bunch of apes, people wouldn't be so condescending. You mention how, you come here and all these random people are just so mean, and judgmental, well as far as i can read, you're not really any better. Just another forum fungus.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [3/6/2007 4:47:44 PM EST]
Score: -3
Haha -- and singmetohell is meatball. You guys are a taunting cabal. A bunch of banshees, drumming up #@&%! because you ultimately like the fact that I won't rest until I've nailed you all.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [3/6/2007 4:45:45 PM EST]
Score: -13
First off, I'm talking solely about meatmachineII -- OK -- not meatball. But why would you think I shouldn't blaze when you come at this song like it's a personal affront to you? Many people have said what they thought--plenty of negatives-- and haven't had any "blazing" from me. The truth is, you opened up with a wisecrack and couldn't take the heat. Yeah, everyone gets their say, but the band isn't muzzled. Nor should it be. If I were in conversation with a musician I respected, I can assure you, I wouldn't dismiss him or her, but frankly, your myspace page, which does have the song posted and playing, shows that you can use a little tunesmanship yerself. Nuff? Finally, it's a true cunundrum that musicians--ultimately performers--are asked to put themselves out there, but do it humbly. You throw a knife at me; I throw it back. I'd suggest that when you go after someone so aggressively, they shouldn't sit on their hands -- I don't think that's hubris. I think it shows that someone really is on the other side of this communication, an easy thing to forget. I write book reviews, and I can tell you, I've never written a bad review, never torn apart a book based on my "feelings" or the fact that it took me longer than five minutes to read, or that the ideas were daunting. I write reviews, generally, about what I like, since I believe that reviews should take the work on its merits. Others have different aims, but it's not too much to ask that someone listen to a song without commenting on the comments that preceded it, and to bring SOME thought to the work that hasn't already been written here a thousand times. We're actually nice folks (the rest of the band are a hell of a lot nicer than me), but if you walked up to someone screaming at them, you might not find them agreeable either.
m-eighty [3/6/2007 4:40:11 PM EST]
Score: +0
Lucky you.
ScottT [3/6/2007 4:38:14 PM EST]
Score: +0
I work at home
m-eighty [3/6/2007 4:33:33 PM EST]
Score: +0
Jesus, don't you people have jobs?
ScottT [3/6/2007 4:30:59 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3 stars
Musically this is OK. Better than a lot of stuff I hear here and certainly better than most of what is heard on the radio. I don't find it "over the top" or groundbreaking but it is certainly worth a listen or two. As for the pompous comments coming from TSQ I can only say you really are full of yourself. Yes some humility would be a good thing for you.
singmetofire [3/6/2007 4:26:02 PM EST]
Score: +15
No really TSQ, you are pretty full of #@&%!.
i am, meatball. And i have nothing to do with meat machine, at all. I just thought it'd be funny to watch you look like you know what you're talking about, not that you hadn't been doing it since you got here, i just can't get enough of a good thing.
MeatMachineII [3/6/2007 4:20:51 PM EST]
Score: +0
Good work detective dick, you found out jack #@&%!. Ill repeat, meatball is not a member of meat machine II. And you further went on to show how little you know, beucase that song was removed, Audio isn't there. Cannot listen to it.

You log onto a website, create a name, post your music knowing that it will be critisized, and yet you react like a 5 year old when we critisize. If you don't care what we have to say, why are you here? You thought we'd all love your music but we don't as a whole, but dude its fine, you obvisouly looked up my music, they didn't like mine either. The point of this site isn't to cater to your artistic vision, its to tell people what you think about their music. If your going to come in here blazing guns if someone doesn't like your tune than by all means #@&%! off.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [3/6/2007 4:11:41 PM EST]
Score: -25
Not you? Follow the links....

115 Tracks Reviewed
181 Comments Posted
Yays: 4 Boos: 0
Critic Score 3/10
Joined: 12/5/2006
Band: Meat Machine II
Average Rating:
Web Site: http://www.myspace.com/meatmachineii

Humility is so boring. And your song is posted on redfizz -- idiot --just search under "fat girl cookies". Or maybe you quit the band -- out of shame -- and just forgot to change the links.
Finally, I finished with RedFizz after blogging about the site on my own website. It's RedFizz associated people who keep opening up the issue. I frankly don't care about your opinions weeks after the song was posted--they're yours--but I'm also not in the game of taking blows from people afraid to take responsibility for the music they make, or the accusations they post about The Size Queens or our fans. You're initial comment didn't demonstrate the respect you're now asking for -- so don't blame me for the tenor of our "discussion."
MeatMachineII [3/6/2007 4:07:50 PM EST]
Score: +20
by the way, unklesam let me get a headshot of you, so that i can get it tattood on my back next to cool hand luke, beucase you the ultimate badass.
MeatMachineII [3/6/2007 3:36:01 PM EST]
Score: +0
Dude, you didn't hear that song becuase its not posted, and its not about fat chicks. Your a clown through and through. Im glad that you made the assumption that becuase meatball has meat in his name he is in any way affiliated with my band, but sorry, wrong. The problem with you, you little #@&%!, is that you've got no god damned respect. You run around spouting bull#@&%! left and right, and you're all affected like you've got something going on in your head that someone else doesn't. Nothing about anything you've ever said hasn't been said before, nothing you've ever thought hasn't been thought by someone else.

Another thing, its not that incapable of understanding you, it may actually be a good idea for you to continue talkign that way, it clearly display how much you love yourself, and how much of pompous cock you really are.

Man, I hate getting this pissed off and ranting, but you are just so full of #@&%!.
unklesam [3/6/2007 3:30:07 PM EST]
Score: +3
but in the meantime: sit and spin Willbur
unklesam [3/6/2007 3:27:24 PM EST]
Score: +3
ok ok - you nailed me, and my stupid sarchasm, I'd say all arguments are futile at this point so I'll lie over and die on this one
qualcomm [3/6/2007 3:17:51 PM EST]
Score: +0
(plus the jokey delivery thereof)
itchybrother [3/6/2007 3:17:35 PM EST]
Score: +0
HAGGIS!
WILLBMUSIC [3/6/2007 3:15:30 PM EST]
Score: +0
much ado about nothing. I disagree somewhat with you unclesam, some of us here do have the capacity to understand the lyrics and diatrib the band is spewing forth, but that doesnt mean we agree with it or find it to be of any true value. once again, its just a song. if compared I would find Haggis the wondercow a more intellectually stimulating fare.
qualcomm [3/6/2007 3:15:20 PM EST]
Score: +0
jokey lyrics hurt this tune, i think
meatball [3/6/2007 3:11:49 PM EST]
Score: +0
well you were smart enough to find out that im a member of meat machine, but that doesn't change the fact that you're a windbag. It just means your smart.
qualcomm [3/6/2007 3:00:24 PM EST]
Score: +0
please don't use the word "whom" anymore, yo. it hurts my eyes.
Commander Yo [3/6/2007 2:23:41 PM EST]
Score: +29
Well, are we still talking about this group? I for one am sick of the Size Queens and their pseudo-intellectual condescending arrogance. You guys are beyond pathetic, you are so typical of elitists; you think your views are correct and that all others whom may have a different voice, a diversity of opinion, are to be derided for holding ideas contrary to your superior cognitive processes. And you know you probably think you are open minded too don’t’ you?:

Well phuck off Asswipes, I hope one of these days the good Lord will bless you with the wisdom of humility……

Oh yeah your song sucks, its bad music and bad satire….

Yo
itchybrother [3/6/2007 2:13:08 PM EST]
Score: +0
crap. I hate when this happens.

I understarred this song. I still don't like the synth that occassionally comes out of the left speaker, but other than that, ain't nothing wrong with this song. I'm still not certain if I like it but I originally said "I can't see listening again" but I have, oh I have. When I left the fizz that day, I actually remembered it. That's something. Seems not as long either, on subsequent listens. Like that trip to grandma's house. The first time you go you think it takes forever, then you realize it's not that long, you just didn't know how to be patient.

I love the beginning where the singer goes, "I've started..." and then giggles.
unklesam [3/6/2007 1:36:25 PM EST]
Score: +32
Listen, I am now using my authority as a top critic to say we do not have time nor tolerance for these sort of antics. I do not have the intellectual capacity to understand your highbrow lyrics, and on behalf of the top critic consortium I would like to add we do not have the education or acculturization to appreciate or understand the magnitude of your work. I think we are all intimidated and outright flabbergasted to see one who is so ultra confident in their work as to argue about artistic merits, and then singlehandedly rip apart the friendly volunteer staff at redfizz. I personally feel violated, hurt, betrayed and a great sense of mistrust after reading this thread.

Now that you know the pain you have inflicted, will you take your songs and leave us alone?
Lurker [3/6/2007 1:35:57 PM EST]
Score: +1
Rated 5 stars
I'm a fan.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [3/6/2007 1:26:41 PM EST]
Score: -4
Oh meatball, using your OTHER identity, or god forbid, other band member to stuff the ballot box. Get off. Grow up. Start READING. And yes, I looked at the enormous success of meatmachine II's endless submissions. Good work boys. Songs about fat girls on acoustic guitars are just a real party and an indication of a talent we've long been missing. You're pathetic. Look it up.
meatball [3/6/2007 1:16:27 PM EST]
Score: +10
Rated 0.5 stars
OR you're a queen size windbag.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [3/6/2007 1:11:58 PM EST]
Score: -24
Dear Meathead-- I mean machine -- you're exactly the person who thinks they're reviewing something, but reveals themselves to be part of that anti-thinking culture I'm personally not interested in. Now you and your friends at Redfizzz have had your time to share your twaddle--under the sad assumption that you're somehow providing the band awareness of something, or better yet, guiding them toward improvement (ho hum, blah, blah) -- but in fact, you should be writing coherent letters to your congressmen rather than this snot-nosed attack on what you assume is too uppity, too smart, and frankly, too beyond your clumsy-witted capacities. We've heard the voice of America, and smelled its Burger King breath, and DUDE -- you take the crown. So why don't you get off your computer and read the thesaurus, dictionary and encyclopedia, or go back to your meaningless job, wave your flag, dole out more of your garbage on this site, and expect everyone to sit back and take it? After all, with all your successful songs, and with your musical stature (you must be one of those people who uses the word "chops") , why wouldn't we be happy to have you dump on us? If any of the two syllable words here disturbed you (I really tried to keep this at your level), it may not be just that you're brain-damaged, but that you need a set of dentures to articulate them, and our next show may be a fundraiser for you. Then again, who cares whether anyone understands you or not. You're just another typical, fearful, aggressive doormouse who thinks the blogosphere is a place where you really get to speak your mind. Well, welcome to mine. It's nice getting comments, isn't it?
MeatMachineII [3/6/2007 12:44:05 PM EST]
Score: +10
Rated 1 star
This song was cool for a minute, but drags on and on and on and on and on and on and on forever. Reading through your comments, you gave me no choice............ Dude, you some kind of #@&%!ing clown? "Hi we are the size queens and we love to use the thesuarus."
unklesam [3/5/2007 11:53:05 PM EST]
Score: +0
holy #@&%! man, where was I this day? this is great, Aaron you were on fire here!

for the record I came here to support a friend that's been banned for 8 months now and still stick around, and hope that the lesson learned here is it's good to have catfights with new members in hopes they'll antagonize us just as much and give us a good laugh in the process, cheers to all
unklesam [3/5/2007 11:39:36 PM EST]
Score: +1
Rated 4.5 stars
a classic thread for a classic song, I dont get the arguments mostly, but I do think the queens were toying with you!

this is good mostly clean fun, and should be rewarded as such. Bonus points for getting the critics goat.
WILLBMUSIC [3/5/2007 9:16:48 PM EST]
Score: +20
i was bored so i was reading the rants below, i must say anyone who can piss off word girl must truely be an ass. i want my stars back. its music. its opinions. dont get your panties in a wad over other comments and then try to elevate your own intellect above others. its better to be than to seem.
fusion4u [2/23/2007 1:22:49 PM EST]
Score: -1
are these guys 4 real??? terrible in every aspect. worthless crap. Unless you like that stuff, then this is for you. They dont deserve a half a star
sedrite [2/20/2007 3:48:28 PM EST]
Score: +0
a wise man once said to me: "understanding is the booby prize of the universe."

i have no idea what the #@&%! he was talking about.
singmetofire [2/20/2007 2:09:23 PM EST]
Score: +0
they're artists. We'll never understand.
alexanderstrung [2/20/2007 1:51:40 PM EST]
Score: +0
the size queens seem to misunderstand me. i see this type of situation as a fait accompli in a site like this, really. as i said, my only problem is it's a little misleading to have those 5 stars raining down from hither and yon. it's a personal problem. i didn't say anything about stuffing no ballot boxes, man. i didn't place blame or responsibility. i was just saying the outcome of fans coming around giving 5 stars is me being thrown off by the score. i think "what is this song everyone loves so much?" but then i realize it's a special occasson.

i'll add also that my enjoyment of reading the comments of people who already know and love the song is not as interesting as reading those of people new to the material.
WILLBMUSIC [2/20/2007 11:48:06 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2.5 stars
this would fit in the "pulp fiction" genre if there was such. music is o.k., accent on vocals seems out of place, if real, no disrespect intended.
jbrown [2/20/2007 10:37:41 AM EST]
Score: +0
Oddly enough, for having almost the entire Red Fizz community stacked against us, we've still found our audience. We didn't do it here. I must disagree. Plenty of regulars gave your song high ratings. Where might this thread have gone without the contributions of Singmetofire? Of course you are getting quite a bit of mileage out of all this. I first heard you here. All this is taking away from the music itself imo. I wonder who will take the high road?
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/20/2007 10:16:51 AM EST]
Score: -28
Shame, alexanderstrung that I like the songs on your myspace page. You've taken the ole 'stuffed the ballot box' idea from the Red Fizz crowd, and will surely be granted "top critic" status, don't you think? It seems to me that Red FIzz folk couldn't help but give a less than neutral response themselves to anyone who liked our song, and trust me, as a musician, one should be bright enough to know that you can't strong-arm people into going to yet another blog, AND registering, just to join the fray that this has become. But I've taken my thoughts on the Red Fizz Stalinists and written my own blog at our myspace page.http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=96155420&blogID=232225058&MyToken=fa4226ec-3adc-45cc-a1d7-afcb641639e8

I have my own thoughts about the naysayers who've jumped on board to give you kudos. They are likely the same bunch that will keep Red Fizz from rising from anything but mediocrity. And that's a shame-- a good idea, gone so terribly wrong. Oddly enough, for having almost the entire Red Fizz community stacked against us, we've still found our audience. We didn't do it here. May I suggest that other bands try the same.
renton [2/20/2007 8:46:55 AM EST]
Score: +0
on this monitor, cos it's got a crappy resolution, it makes your image say the size queers
MySpaceistheAntiChrist [2/20/2007 4:36:21 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 1.5 stars
Its like modest mouse on valuum. No thats not a compliment.
alexanderstrung [2/20/2007 1:08:40 AM EST]
Score: +6
the only problem i really have with the 5 star giveaways is if i come to this site and see a song with a high rating, i sometimes listen to it for that reason. that was the case here. then i find that the rating is largely due to people who are uh predisposed to voting high, let's say, it ends up being almost like false advertising. also as i'm trying to determine if these votes are unbiased or not and i have to read so much cleverness i can't even finish my dinner. it just makes things worse is all.
m-eighty [2/19/2007 9:08:12 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
Wow, interesting comments on this song for sure. Never seen so much argumentative banter. Personally, I think the song is fantastic. Funny how most people missed the irony of the song title and lyrics. It's called No Hooks for crying out loud. Don't go looking for one.

Size Queens,
Don't worry so much about the negative comments. Everyone's got opinions and #@&%!s. I think it a bit unfair to have the song judged partially on the basis of you bringing in 'fans'. Is this website only meant for the chosen few? I don't think so. Besides, even the negative comments show how much the song does affect them. Or else why would they be so vehement and return to keep commenting on this song? They obviously love it but are afraid to admit it. Ha, ha! That's a joke. Keep your arrows in the quiver.
TheNationwide [2/19/2007 11:54:40 AM EST]
Score: +0
Holy #@&%! I can't believe that link actually works.
Trott [2/19/2007 1:17:59 AM EST]
Score: +4
Rated 5 stars
This is the catchy number from that biomusical, penned by a bitter Lou Reed, about Nico and performed by Nina Hagen, right? By the way, Lou totally punched a dead squirrel (http://failedbandsofoklahoma.blogspot.com/2006/09/fbo-did-lou-reed-punch-squirrel.html).
Mr. Bratty [2/17/2007 6:16:05 PM EST]
Score: -1
still awesome.
diggerjohn [2/17/2007 6:01:41 PM EST]
Score: -15
Rated 5 stars
Love the song. Satiric, wacky, even (sorry) hook-ey. I'm guessing the guitar player is pretty sexy. What's wrong with being smart?
singmetofire [2/17/2007 2:40:51 PM EST]
Score: +0
well, GUS WATKINS, i was referring to Queenie. But ONE DAY i will be a real #@&%!ing boy. One day.
guswatkins [2/17/2007 2:39:09 PM EST]
Score: +0
who you callin' gepetto, pinocchio?
singmetofire [2/17/2007 2:34:25 PM EST]
Score: +0
well if it makes you feel any better, geppetto, you are one of the most laughable "musicians" i've come across in quite some time.
guswatkins [2/17/2007 2:21:54 PM EST]
Score: +0
It is the destiny of great art/ists to be misunderstood. You've got a good song. Now stop arguing, move on, and start having fun on the site! Welcome to the community. It's weird, but, don't worry, you'll get used to it soon. Let's hear a new song! And check out all of ours!
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/17/2007 2:15:39 PM EST]
Score: -49
And she calls herself "wordgirl" while condemning Webster. Ha! And condemning book clubs. Don't worry about our "moving" you -- you seem to have done that all on your own. And if we've brought in those terrible "word-tossing troops," we certainly didn't do it for your sake; none of us would imagine you'd have the wit for it. Nor would we do anything for your sake. Please find a wounded puppy quick, so that you care and "feel" for it, and probably kill it with your pathological need for its humility. Hope there's a weepy tune posted to which you can hand out your gold stars. When you start handing out gold bars, we'll worry about your "pretentious" (the most over-used word in undergraduate writing classes) attempt at critique. Wordgirl and singmetohell are the two most laughable "critics" on your site.
singmetofire [2/17/2007 1:21:16 PM EST]
Score: +11
GUS, WATKINS!?
guswatkins [2/17/2007 1:05:24 PM EST]
Score: +10
GUS WATKINS
singmetofire [2/17/2007 1:00:51 PM EST]
Score: +0
Hurrah!
wordgirl62 [2/17/2007 12:50:51 PM EST]
Score: +12
Rated 0.5 stars
Pretentious as hell. We are not idiots here--not all of us anyway...Something is wrong with being so into avant-guarde crap that you forget music is supposed to move people...People who are listening should be able to "get it" without Daniel Webster and his ten thousand closest friends logging on with their explanations of what the song is about and how we should all be feeling about it...The song should do that by itself! This doesn't come close to moving me. Only one opinion, of course...Can't wait to see how many big-word-tossing troops are sent out to punish me for speaking my mind! (Ever thought of having a book club? You guys could all get together to impress the $#%! out of one another! I tingle at the mere thought!
Mr. Bratty [2/17/2007 3:03:22 AM EST]
Score: +0
hooks.
mitra555 [2/17/2007 2:52:34 AM EST]
Score: +1
Rated 5 stars
I love it I love it I love it! And I'm not related 2 any of the band members, so don't give me any sh#@ about loving this song.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/17/2007 1:35:39 AM EST]
Score: -31
Dear aaronlife,
Since you come at this a bit askew, may I suggest two simple quotes from Proust that may illuminate The Size Queens' response to your Smithereens and Fallingwater and granary toast tomes?
"The facts of life do not penetrate to the sphere in which our beliefs are cherished; they did not engender those beliefs, and they are powerless to destroy them; they can inflict on them continual blows of contradiction and disproof without weakening them..."
And this tidy exceprt that I find useful for living to its fullest:
"I have friends wherever there are clusters of trees, stricken but not defeated, which have come together with touching perseverence to offer a common supplication to an inclement sky which has no mercy upon them."
aaronlife [2/17/2007 12:34:49 AM EST]
Score: +20

Fallingwater is recognized as one of Wright's most acclaimed works, and in a 1991 poll of members of the American Institute of Architects, it was voted "the best all-time work of American architecture." It is a supreme example of Frank Lloyd Wright's concept of organic architecture, which promotes harmony between man and nature through design so well integrated with its site that buildings, furnishings, and surroundings become part of a unified, interrelated composition. Wright embraced modern technology to achieve this, designing spaces for living which expressed architecturally the expansive freedom of the American frontier.
sarathal [2/16/2007 11:57:29 PM EST]
Score: +1
Rated 5 stars
Oh yeah... I meant to rate it. Voila.
sarathal [2/16/2007 11:55:27 PM EST]
Score: +1
This is the kind of song that, if I heard it on the radio, it would stop me in my tracks. The first thing that captures me is the anti-beautiful voice--the raw weirdness of it. Then I'm struck by the self-knowing of the voice--the fact that the persona is interrogating beauty as an ideal and distancing himself from that (impossible airbrushed) ideal. Then I think about how the rough-edged music supports all this. I hear tons of intelligence and originality in this song and it makes me want more. Thank you thank you thank you!
kinglisa [2/16/2007 11:17:21 PM EST]
Score: -17
Rated 5 stars
Gorgeous!
earljackson [2/16/2007 10:52:38 PM EST]
Score: -7
thinking about Nico makes me nostalgic despite myself. Anyone remember her performance in this lost french film called The Interior Scar? I also realize i'm leaving myself open for slam dunks by mentioning things like this.
TheNationwide [2/16/2007 9:59:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
mmmm....tasty arguments here. :)
lorella [2/16/2007 8:27:45 PM EST]
Score: -16
Rated 5 stars
I feel a bit of the Cure with a different, slightly melodic bent, perhaps I can understand what someone else said aboutt the Smithereens, and although I enjoy other Size Queen tunes more, I wholeheartedly support this band and want them to make it big, big, big and we can all wear matching t-shirts and rent a bus and go on the road and not shower, and and and ....
singmetofire [2/16/2007 7:40:29 PM EST]
Score: +11
GUS WATKINS
holliphant [2/16/2007 7:40:24 PM EST]
Score: +6
Rated 4.5 stars
As a supermodel, I am offended.
firth5a [2/16/2007 7:29:52 PM EST]
Score: +0
gus - you have a way with words ;-)

There you go, I said something nice.
jennab [2/16/2007 7:20:44 PM EST]
Score: +0
....don't kill the puppy please. and i agree with the last comment, let's hear more cowbell -- oops i mean guitar: )
bonjill [2/16/2007 7:05:00 PM EST]
Score: +5
Rated 5 stars
I love your creativity. Let's hear more of the guitar player though.
aaronlife [2/16/2007 7:00:42 PM EST]
Score: +12
The improbably long-lived Smithereens have never been shy about their British Invasion influences -- now they make them more obvious with an inessential but fun tribute to the Beatles' American debut album. The Smithereens cover all twelve Meet the Beatles!'s tracks, hewing closely to the original arrangements, down to the hand claps in "I Want to Hold Your Hand." They add some deadpan vocals and a bit of extra guitar crunch, particularly goosing the ballad "Till There Was You" -- and against all odds they succeed in making forty-three-year-old music sound new again.
Lurker [2/16/2007 6:36:26 PM EST]
Score: +0
this song is pretty good. but it's got no hook.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/16/2007 6:14:48 PM EST]
Score: -31
We'd love to play with Abel, The Ebb and Flow, Pocket Shelley -- a whole night of lengthy songs that make everyone exasperated and drained. Kinda like the unforgettable Mercury Rev show at The Fillmore a few years back. But of course, I'm in NY, so it's unlikely that we'll be live, until potentially the summer, when we'll be promoting Magic Dollar Shoppe. But thank you for asking ---
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 5:59:10 PM EST]
Score: -21
or Je M'Appelle Au Bon Pain which probably would cause even more of a splash.
jbrown [2/16/2007 5:56:41 PM EST]
Score: +0
or the dollar store song
jbrown [2/16/2007 5:56:16 PM EST]
Score: +0
You've certainly made a big splash on your first submission. Certainly you have gained some new fans thru RF. I hope you continue to post music here. Perhaps you will even keep us posted as to when you will be performing. Do you have any plans for a double billing with Abel Mouton (hope I spelled that right)? Is that a possibility?
xtinarox [2/16/2007 5:54:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
It's kind of cool, but I want to hear their version of 'Ain't No Other Man' up here soon.
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 5:53:04 PM EST]
Score: +8
Well, I think Gus rules cos he likes the boil on my back. He can lance it anytime he wants to.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/16/2007 5:45:07 PM EST]
Score: -23
We do think our fans are smart. And not every critic isn't smart. All are welcome to our world, or vacuum, however you see it.
guswatkins [2/16/2007 5:42:09 PM EST]
Score: +0
All I'm saying is I dream of the day when someone goes on to a website and says that one of my songs is a "challenging intro to [my] work" or that I have "truly transcended typical pop music conventions" or that I am "determined to combat the apathy, lack of introspection and the constant influx of pointless dribble Western culture foists upon the world."
Actually, I'd like it if just once someone said something nice about me on the Internet.
Size Queens... you have some kickass fans!
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 5:41:09 PM EST]
Score: +10
Personally, I prefer the Dairy Queen, with it's fudge machine....
aaronlife [2/16/2007 5:40:30 PM EST]
Score: +0
yes, the potato cake sprouts sage advice
aaronlife [2/16/2007 5:38:34 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
so i had time to listen to the whole thing, i think it's great, but i think it really loses momentum during the instrumental portion of the song, and it kind of never recovers, sort of like bill clinton after monica lewinsky... it has a classic creative appeal, it's like monster mash mixed with i'm too sexy retroed into the early 80s... i dig that... and as much as i appreciate the different lyrical ideas that develop throughout the songs length, i want it shorter to be able to appreciate it often... i'd keep this version for fans, have a shorter version for mass appeal, if that was your desire, and another entirely different version re-mixed for dance clubs, it's classy
itchybrother [2/16/2007 5:37:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
that sounds like one wise potato cake.
aaronlife [2/16/2007 5:35:21 PM EST]
Score: +12
Locals, media types, young professionals and City workers all flock to the bar and restaurant, filling it to the seams every night of the week. The atmosphere is so vibrant that you may have trouble hearing yourself speak but it's so welcoming you won't mind at all. One of the most important things to know about The Empress of India is that the chef is the former chef of Soho celebrity favourite, The Ivy. Starters include a pint of prawns with mayonnaise, Irish rock oysters and rabbit and prune terrine with granary toast. For the main courses, the halibut comes highly recommended and it is also worth trying the roast breast and confit leg of guinea fowl with sage potato cake and braised red cabbage. Suggested side orders include roast butternut squash with pesto or steamed spinach. As for the desserts, the lemon tart and chocolate and pistachio terrine are both delicious.
guswatkins [2/16/2007 5:34:29 PM EST]
Score: +0
i do too.
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 5:23:27 PM EST]
Score: +0
I like the boil on my back.
guswatkins [2/16/2007 5:22:48 PM EST]
Score: +0
i like pie.
singmetofire [2/16/2007 5:19:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
oh you cheeky card.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/16/2007 5:18:22 PM EST]
Score: -21
Set yourself on fire, daahling. We all want to watch.
lipstickbutter [2/16/2007 5:18:06 PM EST]
Score: -18
Rated 4.5 stars
singmetofire [2/16/2007 5:16:39 PM EST]
Score: +11
Oh lord. Im sure that was the point, they all got together and said "lets find an OK place to record at" Even though, i don't really care, recordings are recordings, and sometimes you take what you can get, being in a band is a pain, and it's just important to get stuff out there. My point was, it IS sub par quality, and it IS six minutes long, and EYE don't like it, and cindi, if the internet is so "FREE" get the #@&%! off my back, you said yourself, there is pro, and there is con. HELLO my name is the con.

And you, the size queens, you condescending #@&%!, you and the rest of the nicest #@&%!s i've ever met can all get together and bitch about how angry i am right after you kiss my ass.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/16/2007 5:14:03 PM EST]
Score: -32
I hope "singmetofire" hasn't directed his/her comment to me. There wasn't aggression in my posting. I'm enjoying this. I don't care if you replay the song or not. YOU DON'T PAY ME. I upload and you make your pointed little comments about craft and proceed to go after people who like the song. I didn't mention ballot boxes. I didn't slam you. I merely think that if you have fans post positive things about you, and you find that misleading, well, maybe you have a problem with self-worth. I'm not putting my concentration on those who don't like the song. They don't -- that's fine. It's a song, for god's sake, not the war. But, really, those precious 6 minutes of your life are not something I'll be crying about. You spent more time bringing on your "ho down" than listening, and honestly, you lack a certain subtlety that makes all your posts sound like hollering. That is really not worthy of replay. But good luck to you and yours.
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 5:11:55 PM EST]
Score: -22
The song is not screaming replay to you darling, for some of us others, it does. We like the song length that it is so over the top etc...So we differ on this matter, if you don't like it, don't listen to it. The shoddy production work was done on purpose because the song has no hooks. It's kind of the whole point. They aren't trying accomplish anything except doing what they wanted to do with no constraints. Something that early punk was all about. As far as the remarks regarding ISP, I meant internet in the context of posting on it, not paying for it, which should have been obvious. My apologies for any misunderstanding.
guswatkins [2/16/2007 5:08:59 PM EST]
Score: +0
okiebob, i looked to see if there was a www.guswatkinsisapartyanimal.com but there wasn't. so i know you're totally lying.
singmetofire [2/16/2007 4:58:31 PM EST]
Score: +0
OH and btw, cindi. If you could run that whole, free internet thing by my ISP, it'd help out a lot on the monthly bills. Cheers.
sedrite [2/16/2007 4:58:09 PM EST]
Score: +0
its on!
singmetofire [2/16/2007 4:54:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
looks like we got us a good ol' fashioned ho'down
singmetofire [2/16/2007 4:50:55 PM EST]
Score: +19
Yeah...i wasn't saying that it was a problem, my band did the same thing. We had a lot of fans come here, and we got slammed for it by the regulars, it was just an observation..... So here's an idea, read the #@&%!ing post before you start spouting off about ballot boxes. And about us not having fans? ha....wow. That's rich. And yes, Seddy is a sexy bitch. I love him.


And here's the deal with song length, since you decided to address it.

Yes you were featured, but lets face the facts. This track isn't exactly screaming with replay value, i don't know what you're trying to accomplish, or how you're trying to accomplish it, but if you just think you can take a damn near six minute track, with shoddy production values and overused generic effects and an all too repedative "hook" and SLAM everyone that has all but an inkling of dislike or constructive criticism. My post was in no way shape or form putting across any kind of aggression, but you're reply has seemed to assume otherwise. NOW, the bottom #@&%!ing line.

THIS SONG IS NOT PERFECT. I'm sure you know that. So howsabout next time you post it on a MUSIC REVIEW WEBSITE, you take helpful criticism with a grain of salt. And the next time you expect the average person to sit through a six minute song, take into consideration.....What was the last six minute garage recording you sat through becuase it was THAT GOOD?
jbrown [2/16/2007 4:49:46 PM EST]
Score: +0
Here's the 3 minute thing; The beginning of the song is the strongest part imo. It seems out of characrter (almost) for the singer to be talking about never learning to care after 20-30 years of living the particular lifestyle implied. Then talking about song construction/mechanics. It's so much nicer when things are implied rather than explicitly told, and its not like you're being asked to chisle down the statue of David.
ScottT [2/16/2007 4:48:45 PM EST]
Score: +0
I am glad all the fans showed up. I hope you folks take the time to listen to some of the other music here. There's some good stuff.
choobakka [2/16/2007 4:46:10 PM EST]
Score: +1
I don't know these guys and I love their music. So much for these derisive comments about 'bringing your fans'. But regardless, SO F***ING WHAT if they bring their friends in. Sedrite is rite, bands with fans are derided here. Jesus, I guess there are alot of musical pundits who sit in their room making crappy music that no one wants to hear and yet they keep doing it. Don't be jealous just because they have fans and you don't.
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 4:45:48 PM EST]
Score: -22
Not to speak for anyone else posting, but I don't consider myself a "fan" whatever that term is meant to mean. I'm a friend who genuinely loves the song. Is it wrong for us to come in and express ourselves?? Furthermore, even if the ballot-box is stuffed, it's not like there's some prize these guys are going to win, so why all the grief??? Last time I checked it was a free internet and anyone who wanted to express themselves pro or con should have the right to do so, whomever they are.
TheNationwide [2/16/2007 4:35:48 PM EST]
Score: +0
Just to be clear, sing's fans loved him the same way yours do. He just got lambasted for having his fans come in and give him 5 stars cause they were his fans. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm sure your fans believe you deserve that rating and the positive comments, but when an outsider sees that, its like seeing a ballot box getting stuffed over and over again. And it can leave an unpleasant taste. Now, I'm all for having fans come here, because it helps the site grow, so FWIW, I hope you and your fans stick around.
okiebob [2/16/2007 4:29:02 PM EST]
Score: +1
Not sure about anyone else, but I lifted my comments -- cut-and-paste–style – from www.guswatkinsisapartyanimal.com.
guswatkins [2/16/2007 4:23:31 PM EST]
Score: +10
Holy #@&%!? Who comes up with this stuff? This is the funniest thing I've ever seen. Who are these bizarre, wordy fans of yours, Size Queens, and how can I get some of their literary Harper's-style praise from them?
earljackson [2/16/2007 4:18:00 PM EST]
Score: -36
Rated 5 stars
The Size Queens are the best bad news to come out of the failed empire since Glasstown and Roman Evenings. "No Hooks" is a challenging intro to their work for those who haven't heard Adam Klein's more signature vocal strategies. In other songs, the lyrics out of their particular context can read like easy parody, but Klein's vocals are tremulous [yet retentive] rejections of a cenotaphic pathos - at once plaintive and accusatory - thus poignant indictments towards a listener's whose empathy itself might throb like a red flag. "No Hooks" takes a different tact, however, the vocals are deliberately self-indulgent yet never congratulatory - they display the empty-headed gesture of the already bankrupt and dare you to see through something as transparent as the peepshow glass that the Catholic Church adopted to fashion the coin-operated unfogging casement for the head of St. Catherine.
okiebob [2/16/2007 4:11:52 PM EST]
Score: -21
Rated 4.5 stars
Wonderfully bizarre and original. Lyrics are terrific... 'to destroy my face...and my family' (as an afterthought to face, which is sung slightly interuppted like Lou Reed sings 'chipped my tooth' in the song 'The Last Shot', as if he's touching his tooth to make the point). Rhyming 'family' with 'almost Grammy' is inspired. The song has no hook because the singer 'had the looks of a super model', so anyone ranking this lower for being 'repetitive' oughta stick on the other side of Timberlake.
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/16/2007 4:11:31 PM EST]
Score: -16
I find it lovely that some still carry the belief that bands are somehow able to drag responses--positive responses--from people merely by announcing that their song will be featured on a site. If "singmetofire" had a bad experience with his/her "fan club" -- well, it's no wonder. If someone takes the time to register and write a single word about your song, consider yourself a lucky person and move on. I've never once looked to the public to develop my ideas about artistry, but I know enough from experience that no one owes you anything, least of all loyalty, and if you've earned that you'd be a fool to call it a "bad idea." Your willingness to consider the production of the song is valuable, if beside the point. It's done, pressed, and in the public domain. But you are always welcome to visit us at our myspace page for some songs that are "in process" --
Thanks to all for the fiery banter. It's almost as fun as playing this song for 10 minutes! I do wonder about this radio edit talk. Do bands today really think this way? I guess so, but it sure works against any of my sensibilities -- either in what I listen to, or how I listen. I guess Throbbing Gristle's "Hamburger Lady" and Tuxedomoon records, as well as Pere Ubu's "New Picnic Time" ruined me for the jetset 3 minute radio listeners. Then again, so did Dylan and Neil Young -- and that's not to compare us to them, in any way, shape or form. Just wondering why 3 minutes is the supposed consensus length of a song, even if it has 2 chords?
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 3:54:12 PM EST]
Score: -13
sed, you are anything but a dip@#$t and I haven't even met you yet. I have heard though that you have the looks to be a supermodel.
sedrite [2/16/2007 3:53:54 PM EST]
Score: +0
i call it my where's waldo look...
singmetofire [2/16/2007 3:52:29 PM EST]
Score: +0
btw, sed. I dig the hat.
singmetofire [2/16/2007 3:52:19 PM EST]
Score: -11
Rated 2 stars
it's pretty cute you got your fanclub to come on here and vote.

i did that once, turned out to be a kinda bad idea. Anyhow, all of that aside.
Im going to have to say this gets the big thumb down.


First of all we'll go with one of my favorite nova quotes
Ten Second Rule = i'd have turned this off before it even started.

The "it took me years" thing is a pretty neat line, but not neat enough to support 5 mins of repetition.
The effect on the vocals wears a bit thin after 2mins.....I'd take it back a little, it puts your vocals into a very generic catagory. The drums fall off timing at times, and the tones for the drums are very dry, very top endish, im not really getting a lot of low end on this recording at all actually, pretty dry.

All in all i'd say this song is a decent effort, just not really acheived in my opinnion. It meanders more than it rocks or pulls me in, to be engaged.

I will say this, this is a very interesting way to write a song, and if this was done a little differently i could find myself liking it. But as it stands the procution qualities aren't BAD, just not done right, to really convey the feeling i believe this song needs to do well.

Raise your hand if you understood that.
sedrite [2/16/2007 3:51:00 PM EST]
Score: +0
a band with fans is universally and ubiquitously reviled in the Red Fizz community...

Oh, and I'm the dip#@&%! in the red hat. But I'm not on this recording...
Lurker [2/16/2007 3:49:38 PM EST]
Score: +11
IT TOOK ME YEARS...
chucktimes1 [2/16/2007 3:48:40 PM EST]
Score: -30
Rated 5 stars
Rising from the ashes, empty bottles, & used syringes of the San Francisco nearly never was / almost could've ran "scene" are The Size Queens. Written, rehearsed, recorded, mixed, & mastered in less time than it takes most to finish designing their website and working the kinks out of their "image." FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY! Thank you.
laurenb [2/16/2007 3:43:33 PM EST]
Score: -32
Rated 5 stars
The vocal delivery and lyrics are fantastic, and the fuzzy, relentless instrumentation creates a deliciously grungy atmosphere and drives home the point of the song. It manages to be both blase and clever, trashy and refreshing -- but most of all, it both rocks and makes me want to shake my groove thing. Bravo.
TheNationwide [2/16/2007 3:04:45 PM EST]
Score: +0
My question is, how many people who don't know them, will allow a song time to 'sink in'. Anywhere else besides this site, and I would have already changed the channel.
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 3:03:16 PM EST]
Score: -12
Furthermore Yo, those of who are "friends and family" aren't always telling them the music is great. Trust me. I had a major knock down drag out argument with the principle lyricist whom I love dearly about the lp when I first listened to it 6 months ago. I had problems with aspects of it because I didn't give it the time it needed to sink in. We argued, we fought, there were tears and then as time went by I got where my friend was coming from and reconciliation occurred. So don't assume that those of us who "know them" are just rolling over and saying "great". The highest praise I can give them is their willingness to put their views out and be open to dialogue, whether it be positive or negative. Even from those who know and love them.
Commander Yo [2/16/2007 3:00:12 PM EST]
Score: +0
Yes I agree! As long as they vote for all that commander yo shwag too!
zissou [2/16/2007 2:59:54 PM EST]
Score: +0
23 votes on day one isn't so bad.
TheNationwide [2/16/2007 2:56:52 PM EST]
Score: +0
Agreed. Love the fact that people are coming and enjoying the site.
itchybrother [2/16/2007 2:56:23 PM EST]
Score: +0
but Yo, see how much dialog this sparked, just by having the band invite their fans to sign up and comment?

Nothing creates a crowd like a crowd.
nydkfla [2/16/2007 2:55:45 PM EST]
Score: -29
Rated 5 stars
nydkfla [2/16/2007 2:54:57 PM EST]
Score: +0
Hey wait, I'm family!
Keep up the unique work!! All the best...
D
Commander Yo [2/16/2007 2:52:43 PM EST]
Score: +0
Size queens, indeed you are fullfilling the request of Redfizz by bringing people to the party! The more the merry, in general. So while I am NOT speaking for the Fizzy overlords, please come back... This is a cool site that is why I stick around.

All I am saying is its just funny seeing all these 5 or 4.5 stars from prequalified listeners. I think as a band you would want more newbies to comment on your music than your devoted followers. That is how I learn and become better.

I know my family and friends tell me my music is great, but that is not really telling me anything is it?

Yo
guswatkins [2/16/2007 2:51:41 PM EST]
Score: +0
Deli, you slay me. The "crack panel" is pointless, and the placement of these songs in one of three categories is absolutely meaningless. "Good" and "bad" are so subjective, and mostly meaningless. I hear the weirdest #@&%! in "2nd Stage" and some of the most brilliant stuff in "Rejected."
Deliquessence [2/16/2007 2:48:05 PM EST]
Score: +11
Hey Queens, I did smile at your song...But not for very long. It's like the uncle who tells you the same joke everytime you see him. Enough is enough. And wierd is great, but you till have to keep the interest going, change some things up. Believe in me, while not weird, is a great example of changing things up and keeping the song interesting as it goes on. Terpsihire, or whatever it was called, is a much better song period. It made me smile. And you want wierd? #@&%!ed up? Sonically bizarre? The King of Kings, relegated to the cellar by the "crack" red fizz panel, blows everything here today away. Come on Fizz, get off the crack and start using your ears.
zissou [2/16/2007 2:47:52 PM EST]
Score: +0
yeah Greyfield, we know how you feel about Beck wannabes.
guswatkins [2/16/2007 2:47:44 PM EST]
Score: +0
Hey, what's with all these newbies coming in here and praising this song as if irony is the single greatest musical innovation since the invention of the metronome?
TheNationwide [2/16/2007 2:41:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 1 star
Ok, I got the player working. I understand from reading through the comments earlier, that the subject matter or this song and its simplicity should go together for a simple irony. I guess I can kind of get that. I just simply don't like the song. I'm trying to find points of it that I do like, but so far I haven't.
jbrown [2/16/2007 2:38:09 PM EST]
Score: +0
I wouldn't change the song but I am advocating for a single version, much shorter and dropping the verses that begin to humanize the character. Keep the blase or whatever it is attitude of the beginning 2-3 minutes.
Greyfield [2/16/2007 2:30:51 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3.5 stars
cool...nutty...fascinating! I do wish it'd had the good sense to end at about the 3:30 mark...nothing of consequence happens after that. This kind of "weird" as mentioned in other posts is hardly groundbreaking to anyone who listens outside of top 40 radio....I hear many familiar avant garde influences here...but that doesn't diminish this welcome relief from Beck wannabes. more, please! This would have have been a novelty smash back in the days before focus groups and target marketing killed 90% of the independent music world.
zissou [2/16/2007 2:27:42 PM EST]
Score: +1
Rated 3.5 stars
Dig the strangeness. I like the monster mash vocal delivery...interesting song. It took me years to play an instrument...the taaambourine. Looking forward to more.
Stick around newbies...this place IS the internets.
TheNationwide [2/16/2007 2:23:07 PM EST]
Score: +0
God, I wish the damn music player worked at work.
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 1:58:10 PM EST]
Score: +0
Actually to answer a question posted earlier, the supermodel of the band is the guy who engineered and played drums on it, but is not pictured above. However, the guy in the red hat is a very close second. Also, as a newbie, I'll absolutely come back to this site and check out the music. I think that's the whole point, right???
unintended [2/16/2007 1:52:06 PM EST]
Score: +0
Untold Touchington and The Size Quuens should announce a summer weirdness tour get with me.
unintended [2/16/2007 1:49:14 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4.5 stars
I was so pissed i forgot to vote.
unintended [2/16/2007 1:48:43 PM EST]
Score: +0
Bull #@&%!. This is the music that Sir Touchington is all about, right on Size Queens. I am going to keep on flooding Red Fiz with the new Genre in the music people think its weird well then dont #@&%!ing listen people dont like the sound quality well suck on my Monterous Private Parts. "For the open minded and stouthearted we treasure your comments for the egotistical Hitlers of music go listen to what ever the radio tells you is popular today or Tune into MTV this is music and this is what i love. No Hooks!!!
miss_braniff_air [2/16/2007 1:46:09 PM EST]
Score: -18
Rated 4.5 stars
jesus, this is strange. it has a count chocula feel, like the singer only has one fang. But, i've not heard anything quite like this before and i think the lyrics and subject matter has truly transcended typical pop music conventions. absolutely sublime. the trashy-ness of it is addictive. so is the guy in the red hat the supermodel? that would be my guess...
DTLomax [2/16/2007 1:44:08 PM EST]
Score: -17
Rated 5 stars
hey, i'm a newbee to red fizz and we'll see if i stick around, but this music is smart and intrigues me. if hiply aware, and funny! music like the sizequeens offer is standard faire on this site, i'm hooked. thanks.
itchybrother [2/16/2007 1:39:38 PM EST]
Score: +0
I like it when a song/band brings new faces to this place. Hopefully some of the newbees stick around.
jbrown [2/16/2007 1:37:36 PM EST]
Score: +0
here, here! RF encourages this if you happen to read the not so fine print. BS
It's not like we don't need more people contributing to this site. Maybe some will return,
the_size_queens (song submitter) [2/16/2007 1:31:01 PM EST]
Score: -20
So, I'm in this band and have no objections to the backlash -- to each his/her own, and thanks for commenting. But I have to first ask Commander yo: Why wouldn't a band with a featured song send out an email to their mailing list and have them comment? Should this site cater to a small clan of "top reviewers" or should each band try to bring their own listeners to the table? We sent an email, and posted a bulletin and blog on myspace, so kick us for guerilla marketing. Jeez. Not like we hired a street team for Red Fizz. Finally, to Deliquessence: I'm assuming that this: #@&%! means personal angst? You really want my personal #@&%! ? I'm not voting on this song -- but really, it is what it is, and if you like #@&%!, it might not be there for you because I, frankly, wearied of #@&%! about 20 years ago, and--on a personal aside--have released plenty of earnest music to be kicked for the very fact of the songs' earnestness. I've no doubt you're a tough one to make smile. But this song really shouldn't make one so unhappy? And finally, may I finally dispel the idea that a song inspired by someone can't be "their own truth?" The Size Queens, simply put, do think one can reach the sublime through the ridiculous, and have chosen that ladder. If it hasn't risen high enough for you, we offer apologies.
saracassetti [2/16/2007 1:01:13 PM EST]
Score: -30
Rated 5 stars
I love this way this song enters the party like a bunch of kaftan-wearing weirdo druggies. Oh wait, The Queens ARE a bunch of kaftan-wearing weirdo druggies.
thejosephmccarthyfanclub [2/16/2007 12:47:32 PM EST]
Score: +0
oh yeah deliquessence like you really mean it.
Deliquessence [2/16/2007 12:43:12 PM EST]
Score: +15
Great novelty song, that's about it. Fun for about one to two minutes, quickly becomes unbearable after that. Do something to it. Be musical. It's just not sustainable for more than a couple of minutes. I guess everyone thinks it's cool because it vindicates our place in life for not being supermodels (I'm assuming you weren't a supermodel), but c'mon, how about some truth and honesty about your own life, your own #@&%!. Much more powerful to hear someone expressing their own true #@&%! as opposed to commenting on other people's #@&%!. Instead, why don't you write about why a supermodel's plight has such an effect on you. Go with your own truth. I want to hear about you and your real world experiences. I get enough about famous people's lives just standing in line at the supermarket.
thejosephmccarthyfanclub [2/16/2007 12:40:15 PM EST]
Score: +10
Rated 1 star
i like gorillas.
Commander Yo [2/16/2007 12:37:30 PM EST]
Score: +10
Rated 0.5 stars
Sorry ya’al but I got throw down another protest vote!

This is a fair to good tune. Great Piano playing at times, but how hard is jam wankery on two cords? Love the topic its right on the money.

But my protest vote is against the “One Post Posse”! It’s kind of funny when you see all these glowing comments from people who have only posted on THIS song. comandante sheshe, lilbrandon choobakka, Here is Cindi, coco88, rmayben, toolsRus, littleclubfootedman! No worries though guys it’s a free country, keep packing that ballot box, awesome job at the Gorrilla marketing!
littleclubfootedman [2/16/2007 12:31:39 PM EST]
Score: -12
Rated 5 stars
But vy dooo more, when music like this requires so little, they haf more than enough to give.....
And if it's about Nico, or Janice Dickinson, or whomever -- it's also about ze power of pure presence. The fuzz guitar is purrfect dahlinck. It's all just a glamorous trip back to the days when two chords, like any blues or old rock song (or any Velvet song), could deliver....and it didn't need to be "radio length" because they liked what they were doing well enough to dig into it....
comandante sheshe [2/16/2007 12:08:57 PM EST]
Score: -8
How marvellous! Comandante Sheshe would have expected no less... Long live the Queens!


itchybrother [2/16/2007 12:07:40 PM EST]
Score: +11
Rated 2.5 stars
the piano is great. the organ is great. Not crazy about the synth sound that's in my left ear. I know this song is built around two chords, I get that it's a song about someone who didn't have to try because of her looks (and her ultimated demise) and therefore you deliver a song that doesn't try either. I get it. Isn't it ironic. Still I find it hard to sit through 5 minutes of the same two chords. 5 minutes of those affected count chocula vocals are also bothersome. The same fuzz guitar over and over in my right ear for 5 minutes. Couldn't you have done something different? The piano player did.

The story is pretty good. The verses are solid but I think the chorus, the hook, is a let down.

I do like how the song speeds up at the end but then it turns me off with all that hooking. I dunno. All a bit too affected for me. I can't see listening to this again.
guswatkins [2/16/2007 11:58:19 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
well done all around.
lilbrandon [2/16/2007 11:51:28 AM EST]
Score: -20
Rated 5 stars
great stuff. thanks for being you.

-NLB
aaronlife [2/16/2007 11:41:32 AM EST]
Score: +0
this is great
We Grow Up [2/16/2007 11:32:54 AM EST]
Score: -12
Rated 4.5 stars
Fanbloodytastic!!
choobakka [2/16/2007 11:31:54 AM EST]
Score: -25
Rated 5 stars
Janice Dickinson would be proud. Bravo Size Queens! Brave Size Queens! What sort of myths will you create? What downtown New York values do you espouse? To what heights do you aspire? It's all there in your lyrics. Give me more, Size Queens, give me more.
Here is Cindi [2/16/2007 11:25:02 AM EST]
Score: -35
Rated 5 stars
In a world of disposable music, culture, and increasingly history, The Size Queens are a breath of fresh air in a world where the residue of presumed commentary lasts less than 15 minutes. Determined to combat the apathy, lack of introspection and the constant influx of pointless dribble Western culture foists upon the world, their songs force one to think, laugh, cry and most importantly, demand we FEEL something. Listening to their songs is like having a boil lanced, it might hurt but it's worth the pain. No Hooks is no exception. Ridiculously catchy and on the surface a total howl, the song looks unflinchingly at the slow demise of Nico at the hands of her addiction, while taking an almost misogynist view of her fallen status by saying it was all because of her looks. Which is not far off if you really to remember who Nico was and if she stood for anything....She's remembered for being the beautiful Ice Queen of The Velvet Underground who, after fulfilling her role as a prop/muse was quietly discarded. While Nico was much more than a pretty face and has ultimately been remembered that way, the songs intentional use of misnogyny as metaphor can also be pointed square in the face of how music is crafted and presented in the present world and role the women play or don't play based on the rules. The songs real zing then is found in the chorus a hooky, memorable blast: If the song has no hooks, it must because I have the looks of a supermodel. As with most Size Queens songs the lyrics are all about looking at the past and applying the lessons to the present while forcing us to to look and think about them. Because these are lessons that we needed to learn. All seriousness aside, the song rules, it's catchy as hell and is what music should be all about: THE HOOKS!!! More than 5 stars, I give it 20.
coco88 [2/16/2007 11:17:17 AM EST]
Score: -18
Rated 5 stars
The Size Queens should get an "almost grammy" for this one: the relentless piano, the crunchy guitar, that tambo refusing the beat, and, of course, the ironic vocal hook, ahhhhhhhhhhh.
Mr. Bratty [2/16/2007 10:32:34 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4.5 stars
the mental images i get when i hear this song are so grotesque. well done, lads!
jbrown [2/16/2007 10:27:29 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
The other stuff is good too.
rmayben [2/16/2007 8:59:58 AM EST]
Score: -18
Rated 4.5 stars
Very Cool - Can't wait for more from this band!
firth5a [2/16/2007 8:28:49 AM EST]
Score: +2
Rated 3.5 stars
This is a good song. I liked the "open" sound and the sort of lazy feel about it.
toolsRus [2/16/2007 8:03:05 AM EST]
Score: -10
Rated 4 stars
I like the dark qualties of this song.
jbrown [posted during evaluation]
Score: +2
It took me years... That is a killer line. Sorry, I'll have to steal that one. I might go as high as 4 stars here. This is feature material in my book. Works on multiple levels. Very entertaining.
unintended [posted during evaluation]
Score: +2
This song rocks
MeatMachineII [posted during evaluation]
Score: +2
Good work
Mr. Bratty [posted during evaluation]
Score: +2
just awesome.

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