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ghengus23: great down dirty country rock feelin' from the start. Reminds me of social distortion. Not sure if...


Dirt Farmer - Hailing from Toronto, Ontario, Dirt Farmer is the songwriting duo of Scott Cryer and Rob Macdonald who along with their de facto third member, studio master Wayne Lorenz, have been churning out highly original songs since the late 80's to considerable critical acclaim. The pair started out as Two Thirds Water with a string of edgy pop albums and alternative radio play along with sharing the stage with such luminaries as the Barenaked Ladies and Wild Strawberries as winners of the CFNY Great Ontario Talent search in 1990. Their tunes are at times dark and surreal and at times the quintessence of pop songwriting in the best traditions of Elliott Smith, Frank Black and the Cure. Their music has a sometime soundtrack feel to it and accordingly has been featured by the CBC as background music to a successful nationally televised documentary. Although artists with a largely rock/alternative sound, they are versatile enough to have been favorably reviewed in Nashville for some of their alt country tunes. They owe a large degree of success for their sound over the last 6 albums to the studio prowess of Lorenz, who is a highly successful, brilliant and somewhat eccentric producer.   
Genre: Rock
Weighted Rating: [10 Votes, 3.9 Stars]
Views: 3,626
Featured Review
wayne monges [7/11/2007 9:42:51 AM EST]
Score: +12
There are a lot of things I like about this tune. It cleverly incorporates some of Elliott Smith's more familiar mannerisms: the fingerpicked guitar as anchor of the production, the jaunty but not flashy keyboard obligattoes (the organ sounds just like one Elliott would have used) and of course holding the drums out until the b section where they enter with a simple but tasty fill (then dropping them out again and repeating that gag on the second verse too). I guess a lot of people have written songs for or about Elliott Smith: it's a strong temptation and seems like the only thing you can do right, besides cry in your beer? (Ben Folds' "Late" is probably the best known). The problem here is that by trying to imitate Elliott you're inviting some pretty harsh comparisons -- I mean it would be pretty hard to measure up to his standard. As a composition I would say this falls a little short mainly because it just stays basically in the key of G all the way through, whereas Elliott always had a few surprising chords and tricky modulations up his sleeve. (As in,eg, "Alameda"with it's verse in C major and chorus in C minor). When you introduce that B7 chord at around 2:36 I think you missed an opportunity. Because it was a nice, unexpected leading chord that I thought would take us to a bridge in another key. BUt it just kind of fizzled out and rather tamely lead back into the am7 em D that you started with.
And I probably shouldn't get started on this, but I don't believe Elliott Smith committed suicide. Who stabs himself in the heart? (Maybe a samurai warrior could pull it off). It just doesn't pass the smell test. Maybe the LAPD just can't be bothered to investigate the case because they had Elliott on their #@&%! list for "interfering with a peace officer."
Anyway, thanks for this. Obviously a lot of care and deep feeling went into it.
Liner Notes
Richie Isaacs [5/17/2009 3:44:39 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
Nice song and is a nice 'farewell' to Elliot...nothing I can add that wasn't added a couple of years ago...wonderful!
Sputnikov [10/9/2007 8:45:37 PM EST]
Score: +0
this is a pretty good song. i don't care for it much though. i think it's a personal problem. don't mind me.
Jeff Joseph [7/14/2007 1:19:35 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4.5 stars
really well done, good jam
partialreptile [7/13/2007 8:02:09 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 5 stars
Great work.
captain bringdown [7/12/2007 2:01:59 AM EST]
Score: +0
oh, actually the acoustic is not fingerpicked is it? Should have been.
JimPearson [7/12/2007 12:15:16 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 5 stars
When I first heard this song (a while back) I didn't know who ES was, or that this song is about him. But I knew this was a "real" song about "someone significant". The first half of the song feels deeply personal, and that is carried throughout. The latter half of the song seems to "celebrate" the influence this "significant someone" has had on the writer. It works. On his recommendation I bought my first ES album XO. My first listen was memorable. I has subsequently made me appreciate THIS song and the songmanship even more, because this is not simply a song "in the style of..." it is an ode and acknowledgement of ESs influence.

Tackling a subject like this must be incredibly challenging, yet this song avoids all the pitfalls of obvious sentimentality and cleverly weaves in musical and personal influences.
wordgirl62 [7/11/2007 4:05:17 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
I really like this--well written as #@&%!! Beautiful....I can relate to these feelings expressed here, even if my feelings are in reference to another young talent's suicide...That chorus, upbeat and almost sing-songy...I like that about could have been done in an overtly maudlin way, but the subject matter is too depressing already, so this upbeat music is almost unnerving in that regard--and catchy--you've also kept the song from becoming a total bummer. Though it got a bit repititious towards the end, you can always add a verse when the muse strikes you later...All said, good work.
itchybrother [7/11/2007 3:16:06 PM EST]
Score: +0
wow I don't remember this at all from the battle. It's solid, but for some reason just isn't drawing me in.
ScottT [7/11/2007 3:15:17 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3 stars
DaveOD [7/11/2007 1:44:24 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4.5 stars
Not a big Elliot Smith fan, so the references are kinda lost, on me. However....I was whistling along and finger drumming on my desk, by 30 seconds in, so what does that tell ya?
jivewhiteboy [7/11/2007 1:39:07 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
ya, i see the smith comparisons with the piano/organ. at first the vocals were like david gray to me.
good song. doesn't stay with me like i'd like a song to do, but i can't fault you for my personal taste.
balcerebon [7/11/2007 11:51:43 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
nice work.
aaronlife [7/11/2007 11:34:24 AM EST]
Score: +0
haha, oh
wayne monges [7/11/2007 10:58:31 AM EST]
Score: +0
I think the lyric is "you took the fun all away from me"
aaronlife [7/11/2007 10:56:45 AM EST]
Score: +0
the song gets better with repeated listens, i think it's the vocals that i want to be different (even though your voice is fine), re-recorded in a more upbeat mood/tonal delivery. and i'd like to hear harmonies on this, e.g on the 'where'd ya go, you took the phone away from me'. i think this song wants to be more fun than it is, but the vocal delivery is downplayed.
aaronlife [7/11/2007 9:15:23 AM EST]
Score: +0
yeah, can't put my finger on it, it's all really nice, but it's not grabbing me, i like all the playing and the vocals are fine, but it does get tiresome by around 1:30. but this is my morning mind, i'll come back later... i like the lyrics... maybe it's because it's a relatively upbeat melody that should have me dancing, or swinging around, but there is a depression to it that flattens it down... that may just be too much internal conflict for one song to ultimately make work. melody sticks in my head a bit after one listen, that's a step in the right direction... songs always make me feel a particular way, and i think i just don't like feeling how this song makes me feel. makes me feel blah. great skills though.
firth5a [7/11/2007 7:59:41 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 3 stars
Everything is right about this song - the playing, the structure, the singing, the production - everything except the finished product. It just doesn't work for me. Ultimately tiresome as sedrite rightly said.
JimPearson [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
Ah ha! Good to see you here Scott. I love this song, I love this band. This song introduced me to Elliott Smith, for which I am eternally grateful. The only problem I have is with great songs like this on RedFizz battles - I've got not chance...
sedrite [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
cool piano. cool singing. song tiresome before too long. as the dynamic ramps up, it becomes more annoying to me. but cool piano and singing I thought.
CalebH [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
this is really good. would have normally won, but the other song was exceptional. i'm unsure about the vocals, kind of. otherwise, it's great.
wordgirl62 [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
very nicely put-together song!
itchybrother [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
ScottT [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
Elliott Smith is one of our fave artists of all time. When he died I was really truly depressed about the whole ordeal. I started to ask myself why I was so depressed about it when I had never met the guy....perhaps I was sad I wouldn't get any new product? That sounded hideous but I didn't really have a good answer. As a result, here is this song that explores the 'strange connection' we have with some people who can inspire us from afar.

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