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2/15/2012

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What You Need To Know
By nichts 
Weighted Rating: [5 Votes, 3.56 Stars]
Views: 1,278
[song removed by band]
Featured Review
Babar Klunj [3/3/2012 8:58:38 PM EST]
Score: +18
People who like Zappa are weirdos? Cool!!!
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Liner Notes
MiddleAgeMusic (song submitter) [3/6/2012 2:19:26 PM EST]
Score: +0
I appreciate your comments here, Pynner. People have different tastes. That's why it doesn't all sound the same, and that's definitely a good thing!
Pynner [3/6/2012 12:57:26 AM EST]
Score: +0
I just mentioned Primus because that's the only prog-rock I've ever been able to get into. The thing about prog rock is you either love it, or hate it. Your music doesn't appeal to me, but I bet Rush and Zappa fans would like it or at least give it a chance. Without a doubt you've got extremely tight performance skills, just like Rush does. But also like rush, I feel the songwriting lacks soul. Keep doing what you love to do dude.
MiddleAgeMusic (song submitter) [3/3/2012 11:54:50 PM EST]
Score: +0
Well, I've just listened to Primus for the first time. I listened to several songs so that I might understand why someone who "loves" Primus might (or, rather, does) hate my songs. First, I'll say, Primus has an amazing drummer. But here are the big differences I see between their music and mine: #1-they have no keyboards; I used no guitars on these two songs. For anyone who loves heavy guitars, there's one reason to dislike my stuff. #2-Primus is very edgy--lots of distortion which creates a "heaviness."; My production lacks distorted instruments and the general edginess of Primus. #3-This is the big reason, I think: Primus is somewhat atonal. Their chord progressions might go, say, from CMajor to C#Major--chords that have no relationship at all to one another. This is a big part of their edginess. They play some impressively difficult-sounding stuff at times, but they seem to have an intentional disregard for traditional harmony; My music, while it may jump keys, is primarily tonal. Even when I use chords that are not in the same key, I like them to at least have one note in common, so that they "seem" to belong together. #4-The overall "attitude" of Primus' music is, for lack of a better term, angry--kind of like the anger of Punk; My music isn't angry, and tends toward "poppy" even.
So, If keyboardless, heavy, atonal, angry, guitar-heavy music is your bag, I understand why you hate my music. I do find the comparison to Rush and Zappa odd, as, ironically, I don't listen to Zappa or Rush, though I do admire their arrangement abilities. My "Prog" influences would include Yes, UK, Jethro Tull(Especially "A"), and Genesis(and I honestly prefer the early trio stuff. Gasp!). Honestly, Primus doesn't appeal to me at all. They're quite good at what they do. Just not my bag. I'm not going to get into Primus, and I wouldn't recommend my music to a Primus fan (unless, maybe they like my bass playing--thanks, Richie).
Richie Isaacs [3/3/2012 9:43:13 PM EST]
Score: +8
Rated 4 stars
I listen to Primus AND Zappa...Guess I'm #@&%!ed then :o)
Still not my bag so I'll vote for the bass player, love those lines.
Babar Klunj [3/3/2012 8:54:38 PM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 4 stars
MiddleAgeMusic (song submitter) [3/3/2012 11:34:07 AM EST]
Score: +0
Okay.
Pynner [3/3/2012 5:28:47 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 2 stars
Okay, I'm gonna listen to this now knowing thtat it's not MIDI. Uh, still not feature worthy.

I hate Zappa and rush, but that's not why I dislike this. It's part of it, but I'm trying to take that out my vote. Because I know a #@&%! load of weirdos who do like that #@&%!, and I myself love Primus.

It's the over all sound that bothers me about this. Second stage.
Babar Klunj [3/2/2012 4:27:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
I forgot you 2 worked together years ago....so Collusion is 2 pro guys and a bedroom player.
MiddleAgeMusic (song submitter) [3/2/2012 12:44:52 PM EST]
Score: +0
And that was a very cool experience! To be fair, Don and I did work together in an R&B/Blues band back in...well, back then. That was a blast, too, but totally different than Collusion.
Babar Klunj [3/2/2012 7:20:29 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rob did collaborate with 2 folks with totally different musical backgrounds. It may not be something you will like.
http://redfizz.com/rf/song.aspx?songid=351012
KeavesSharpy [3/1/2012 10:06:56 PM EST]
Score: -3
Rated 3 stars
Working my way back through the features.I'd like to see you colaberate with someone with a totally different background than you, Rob. You're too far into your comfort zone with this stuff. It's very talented but very too-much-time-on-my-hands if you get my meaning. I actually mean this with nothing but respect. you've got a lot of talent. Crap i'm starting to sound like Ritchie :P
nofollowing [2/16/2012 1:45:50 PM EST]
Score: +0
Keep up the great work Rob, and take care of that voice of yours Kid.
Got something new for you.

Rich
MiddleAgeMusic (song submitter) [2/16/2012 12:22:12 PM EST]
Score: +0
Thanks, Rich! I'm glad you like it. I really enjoyed making this. However, I do think I'll go back and turn the effects off the piano track. At the time, It seemed a good idea to make the piano sound more electronic, but I bought my piano for the great tones. JWPP got me thinking about that.
nofollowing [2/16/2012 10:09:35 AM EST]
Score: +0
Rated 5 stars
The more I listen, the more I love this song. Way to go Rob
nofollowing [2/15/2012 6:06:17 PM EST]
Score: +0
Great song Rob, love your vocals, harmonies right on,piano,bass, digin the music, classic smooth feel. Great hearing from you again, and listening.

Rich
MiddleAgeMusic (song submitter) [2/15/2012 6:00:48 PM EST]
Score: +0
In this case, it was really pretty easy. There's one keyboard on top of my piano that can be split. In the right hand, I have the synth choir sound, in the left, the "sweep." Another keyboard to the right allows for the synth part right before the bluesy piano part. It's just a matter of filling in the gaps in one part with sounds from another.
Babar Klunj [2/15/2012 4:34:53 PM EST]
Score: +0
The fact that all the keyboard parts were recorded at the same time is pretty impressive....lot's of stuff going on.
MiddleAgeMusic (song submitter) [2/15/2012 4:08:50 PM EST]
Score: -3
Ha! I'll give you a call, Richie!
Richie Isaacs [2/15/2012 3:54:52 PM EST]
Score: -3
I'm looking for a new place to live, have my own guitar so when you do and have room to spare....
MiddleAgeMusic (song submitter) [2/15/2012 3:31:17 PM EST]
Score: +0
Thanks, gents! Yeah, Richie, I didn't really think this would be a bass-heavy piece, but when I picked the thing up, I found myself eagerly embracing the old Jack Bruce influence. Too much fun. I'd love to have a band--and this could be played by a 3-piece. All of the keys were recorded at the same time. If only I had about 10 more keyboards!!! Oh, yeah, and a house big enough for them all.
Richie Isaacs [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
Loving those basslines, whoever says bass should be felt and not heard, well, probably got dumped by a bass player :D
The rest of the song is well done too, not my bag but I would have to be an idiot not to appreciate how well this is put together so yeah, bravo!
Babar Klunj [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
Wonderful piano playing and overall goodness. Reminds me a bit of Camel or maybe Caravan.
Jehovahs Witness Protection Program [posted during evaluation]
Score: +0
Overly slick MIDI productions can make for a rather artificial and lifeless result. Resist the urge to tweak and refine away every natural nuance. Extra credit from me for carrying the Prog banner. Con some players in helping you realize your vision and savor the rewards of natural performer interplay who can breath life into this piece.
This is what you need to know
long before the night
In the darkness many things are
out of sight

Will you luminate the way when
Light is fading fast?
On the way without a light
you may not last

If you're on the right side
Head-on you'll not meet
Not unless your traveling
An English street

Never take it too fast and be
Looking for the signs
If you should neglect them,
You'll be hit with fines.

Turn the wheels against the curb
When you park downhill.

Turn the wheel into the street
When you park uphill
Turn the wheel against the curb
When you park downhill

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