Torrents? Cubase 5 free?

I've got a project mgr that makes that joke at least once a week about dummy terminals...At times I yearn for the days of as400s and error messages that actually make sense. Who cares if outlook lost your personal stationary and your graphic behind your signature!!! It's going to get worse too.

The cloud has some lofty ideas. There are a few music collab sites with supposedly minimal latency. I can't get into it yet however.

Funny thing about "cloud computing" - the concept of an essentially dumb terminal connected to a server where the data and program code actually reside - may seem a revolutionary concept to technophiles. Unfortunately, it is nothing new. My dad was dong "cloud computing" when he brought home the briefcase with the teletype machine and acoustic modem and worked on the mainframe from home! Back in the 1960s!

Not as much as I thought. Sometime I think analog. Your ATR is sending 16 indivudual tracks. In digital, the tracks are mixed to a single stereo stream so you don't have 16 channel being sent you, just 2. I would think that UDP for continuous controllers and TCP for the audio stream, an resonable bandwith would work if you got used to the lag. When you turn the fader, the control signal has to be sent back the server, process and the audio returned to you means some what of delay.

how much bandwidth you talking?

Who has the bandwidth for real time multitrack digital audio?

you know: I wonder how a protools on a cloud would do? something you could kind of rent, or hey maybe a virtual server with a bunch of tools...

i MUST say it's hard to imagine too many musicians using virtualization, although I've seen a nice SAN in a studio recently so I guess it could go really high tech. Cloud composing and engineering....hmm.

I'll stick with Vienna Kielbasa

I actually prefer the term desktop weasel, and I too use whatever hand is free! haaaaaaaa
computer humor ar ar

Well with all this virtualization, it will soon be very common to see a person running Mac, Linux, and Windows simultaneously. Each of us will be multi-platform ho!

haaa that's funny!

I'm a cross platform ho, use whatever's at hand. ;)

don't worry I think we're all desktop weenies coolfog

Back in the late 70's a band called Rascal Reporters did an album sending 8-track open reel tape around the world to friends so they could add parts to tunes. What a cumbersome project that must have been. Great album.
I am not quite a weenie but more of somewhere between a Vienna sausage and a kielbasa.

Wow i just remembered why I don't usually get involved in these deep discussions.

I am in support of the desktop addicted weenies. Go weenies.

a lot of the proprietary stuff is just junk really, and they know it... standardization would be good and a lot of the open source strives for that stuff but the fancy formats keeps desktop weenies addicted to their various platforms. I still don't think that its that hard to work around, unless you're talking about huge projects. Still a header file thingie is pretty neat

No, I am not calling for a standardization of feature, just the project file format.

Your project file hold audio data and instructions/setting data. A standard file header would include the audio data type (wav, aiff, etc) the resolution (16, 24, 32 bit, etc), and the sample rate (44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 96 kHz, etc). It would include were each audio track file begins and ends. I would contain the software and version it was created on and point to where the proprietary data sits. That way when you open a project file, if it is not compatible with the program it was created on, it could at least unpack all the audio files. Frankly, the editing file pointers for editing could also be standardized. The more of the purely mechanics that could be standardize the better. So all EQ settings could have number of bands with the filter type, Q, amplitude, and center frequency. Of course each EQ may not sound the same, but at least if you both use the same plugins, they will. In fact, despite the funny name given, there are a finite number of actual FX and parameters. The differences are how they are implemented.

I always bring up MIDI when discussing computers because MIDI is the very best electronics standard ever created. 100% accepted and 100% compatible. If the vendor want proprietary data stored, you use system exclusive messages. MIDI has not stopped sequencer software and sound module hardware from being very innovative. MIDI is proof that standards can be used. This has been successful for nearly 30 years.

that's true, one of the things I like about messing with different platforms is the fact that you can mess with different ideas musically in ways you may not have thought of ...fruityloops and reason allow me to mess with music in ways I hadn't ever considered

Reason is a part of your sound just the way Audition is part of my sound. When you use two or three programs it adds to the flavour of your music. Just like bands use different types of guitars and keyboards and mics. I bet your worldwide colaboration will be awesome because of the variety.

Geez....make that 31 years ago. I keep forgetting how old I am and what year it is. MMX

You are certainly right there. MEZ or Groon Lake wouldn't be able to do what they do if not for computers and the Internet. My favorite software for composing is Reason...made in Sweden. They are constantly asking users what can we do to make this tool work better for you. Many of us use the currently available tools to make make our music and invariably we all say..."Boy..if it could only do this or that". 25 years ago when I was bouncing tracks between 2 tape decks I never dreamed I would have such incredible tools for making music at my disposal as I do today. Though I am very happy with what I have today, I can't wait to see what the software and hardware folks come up with next.

In reality I think having computers and being able to transfer wav files by email makes recording a thousand times easier then it was 20 years ago. But people are like that never satisfied or able to see what they have already and unable to believe they have the creativity to use what they have in new or original ways. People are an ever hungry machine saying "more more better better" It is an unreality that sometimes destroys before reality sets in. In this way I respect Europeans more they tend to be more humble and have a more basic understanding.

Take Groon Lake for instance. There are 8-10 folks around the world involved each using different types of software. As individual artists each member creates very different styles of music on various platforms, but together we work as one. Being able to send a raw data file that could be used easily by all would be a real bonus.

The programs would still stay the same. There would just be a way to take the raw data and send it so the next person could input it into the software they use.

I am not for it because in the end I think we would loose the variety of programs we have now each with their own features which make them amazing for different styles of music.

I'm all for a cross platform/software standard. I could then ship raw files to my music buddies all over the world who happen to use different software.

I am in favour of many different types of software and a variety of standards. Better for the consumer and it let's your average joe do some cool stuff. If you are at the level to hire a studio to record you good but for the rest of us variety is the spice of life.

Well, we have lots of project files for each of the 11 songs meaning about 50 projects and about 12 tracks per projects. I would be all day long importing those wav files back in. Plus, a projejct file is similar to a zip file. Obviously the files the holding all of the data for features not in the ealier versions would do no good, but the ablilty to unlock the PCM files themselves should be available for any version. Plus, the guy is not a buddy, just a hired room and all of the files are on my hard-drive. I will have the Cubase 5 in a couple of days anyhow so the original issue is moot.

But we can still bitch about!

And if we could possibly get musicians united, we might force a file standard that allows portablity of at least the raw tracks between all systems regardess of mfr. Think of it this way. The track that held all your SSL automation signals on your 2" machine may have been useless when you moved to another studio, but that tape would play back on any 2" machine. I don't think I am asking too much from the industry that WE have made rich.

I am not a cubase user but I don't think Cubase lied what they mean is you can take older projects and open them in the new version of the software and the reverse.

Most of the new software has the ability to rip into the project file or folder which may include wavs, and on top of that to save the project in any number of forms.

My Audition can save into numerous forms there is actually a long list!

If your buddy at the studio still has your projects it should take all of 5 min to pop the project open and render it to Aiff, wav, mp3 or whatever and email it to you.

ya know: I am a little against some of these 200 dollar upgrades they try to sell every few years- same with all the plugins and stuff. Oh well.

I am not saying the software is not worth the price, I just think that projects on later version should at least allow the user to extract the wav files.

Turns my daughter's student ID can get me Cubase Essentials 5 for $79 so I will likely just go with that.

CoolFog: they lied.

Try ebay and some online stores sometimes there are good deals....

I agree. I actually deleted all my torrents ... I've been checking out the m-powered stuff from pro-tools and it looks pretty stellar for 249, but then there's the interface. It's all good, it just costs a bit.

I have admiration for the people that created some of this software it can do amazing things and to me is worth the price.

On the Steinberg site it says all new versions are backward compatible with older versions.

It IS crazy, you're paying thru the nose for something that really isn't there...

holy crud, all the good stuff is 500 bucks these days. THat's wack

if you search for Cubase demo you might find a version 4 etc.

There is lots of demo versions of Cubase available I think........

I think it's weird. I see the cubase LE bundled with all kinds of stuff that I've been considering buying. You might find a deal with a interface, etc. Really, I am surprised that all these audio recording platforms can stay afloat.

No demos for Cubase anymore. I think that will be a trend. I don't blame them for that. Why build software if one guy publishes his key on the Internet. I am just mad about no backward compatibility.

Goddbless.....working plumbing is muy importante

If I had cubase I would open it up and rip it for you. Maybe you can download a demo version just to get the file converted.

Maybe at the incredible wonderment that is PiG CiTY, but here at Small Potatoes we are happy if the #@&%!ter is working.

is the Delorean all revved up with the flux capacitors good 2 go?

Here at Small Potatoes Studio in Klunj Kastle it's rubber bands and duct tape.

My boys here at the PiG CiTY ReSEARcH FaCILItY have been getting 20,000 gigga-#@&%!s to the milla-pickle. Those kind of serious numbers just can't be contrived. The future is now for those of us prescient enough to get to it. Three of these babies hooked to a reverse phase coupler,... well I'm sure you're getting the jist.

yeah, if you get protools plugins, generally they can be used with any of those softwares or at least the main ones, but I was surprised to see them all pop up for my list in reaper for example

The guy I recorded with seemed to have as many plugins for Cubase that my ProTools guy has.

looks cool, better be for 229$! ouch

Ampli Tude Fender is pretty cool

Cool, I might give that a try.Cheers!!!

I always liked revalver as far as direct x goes. It works cross platform, and I've only used it on cakewalk however.

The funnest plugins I've ever used were from here http://www.ohmforce.com/HomePage.do - a little french company and they have a free one that's pretty fun called Frohmage very robust features and very expensive products in this day and age of freeware

Any good guitar plugins for Cubase? I must reinstall Sonar as well once I get this fixed/replaced.
Thanks for the demonoid reminder, I forgot I'm over there :P

actually, this one has 61 seeds, good sign http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/2071077/10271849/
you can use my id

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eh, good luck on that one, I've had the best luck with mini nova but they went legit, but I use torrentz.com to see what's out there, it's a search engine per say. Normally others will comment to let you know if the files are compromised, but you should be able to burn to disc and then see if there are any infected files. Knock on wood, I've had great luck.

Demonoid seems to be the only one that's working for pulling up files....
try this http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/2044338/11739256/ and let me know if you need an invite for the site, etc.

I don't want to be a software pirate, but after spending money to get a system with Cubase LE 4, then spending more money in a Cubase 5 studio, I cannot get my files open with spending $400 on Cubase 5. They could at least provide or sell a utility to do as much!

All I want to do get my files open to edit without spending more money. I tried torrents all I get is viruses or site claiming to be free until you sign up. I registered and downloaded BitTorrent, but the search brings me to more scam sites.

Can someone help:
-get me working copy of Cubase 5
-tell me a legit torrent download site
-just get my cpr files converted to wav files